PFW in Progress - 7/8/2008

Tue, 8 Jul 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we discuss former Patriots tight end Ben Coates enshrinement to the Patriots Hall of Fame. We'll talk about the Patriots Hall of Fame nomination process and who might be eligible for the honor next year. Plus, we'll discuss the possibility of Packers quarterback Brett Favre coming out of retirement. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, Tom and Erik as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Listen LIVE Tuesday's and Thursday's from 12-2 p.m. and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 5:27[5:27]" What are the fears of the old timers writer oh -- one retiree. You know the old guys like Paul I don't think I don't think that I think the fans that vote on this. Truly know that -- and if there's a guy that negated though it. Oh that would worry about it because of that they gave up. The community let three people who and the fans vote these guys better and that -- Crop are coming through yet -- do you always beat it down time win win. Oh you know how you gonna regret like to -- is thirty now will be some don't oh and you gotta think at that point people. Not going to remember John Moore to well and they don't really remember him too well right now I would. On the other about a -- guys get a little -- well you have to be retired for four years where you're eligible for the -- It QB Troy Brown can't let them yet. You know who will be eligible. Right now they have -- one that crew starts coming up over a dominant about it walls after. You know who will be eligible and you had already been a -- I -- I'll come on as a Patriots are afraid. You can often outbreak -- People -- Trot Nixon I want to expect him to make the run all all of it if his name came -- where I'm telling me he wouldn't have a legitimate shot him and all of the writers mark and not even -- up for. -- what years. Patriot and then back in the eighties you know. Doug when he was given my about it from the but he didn't think with the I'm not disagree with that I'm just saying that what given it was me and it fans well. When I leave the kind of an L yep look forward to Doug Flutie the Patriots Hall of Fame owner LB. Not advocating a one where they learned a thing I wouldn't be surprised -- he got no idea and I don't know. Aren't undefeated champion Bears that they want to vote for for the -- all -- Oh they'll you know. Well I think it might have been probably you know anyone who retire before."

Play from 8:11[8:11]" In war that would be eligible already -- I was a tough stretch to win the the latter half of if you think four years retired there was there was some teams that are in the -- right that that's one of the guys from that era and coat now. Not yet but he will be probably another year that year Duke is that from the Patriots when he when he NFL yeah oh he'll he'll go -- Al -- yeah. You know. Other than that than twenty -- right ground out. You know -- had more on a tight. His left playing well I'll let radio pages back that that's big news. Oh yeah I went through it again yesterday and Vietnamese. How old are long -- all the all the all the walls -- I saw that you know some of them but the -- out many. Along ways ago where it is but now the work at bat. Well everything pointers and -- now it again. You know call. Really that's enough strippers Sweeney who saw that it fooled we need. Were hurt and you probably the -- these. Crummy ones who once -- birds are hungry but. It be to do that -- or are they didn't bring any large -- that we have to be parents just emailed back -- offered. Yeah I'd good man there we go -- you know. Either one fine with me. You'll be on the start of the thirty dot com our favorite -- well I. -- numbered or anything going on the -- that we need to talk about while he he's not gonna go out and about Kobe Bryant know that -- able. Maybe competent Brett Bartlett -- want to talk about Brett Barnett brought that up Eric reminded me about that coach. I think -- ridiculous I agree I think what are doing is completely. He picked that the football which is okay which. The plate and and more than that -- don't hold. A retirement press conference -- your eyes out and talk about what they you're leaving the game and all the non and just go to another team if that's what you wanted to do what ever happened is when people. Did things and and outside their word like -- far won the Packers to go to another team in the packers'. Don't want to do that they just wanted to go way yeah you know as I would I would the Packers I'd say you're more than welcome to combat can be there Rogers spent now while I don't know that would a lot of people and that you know the -- let him go to another team. They'd bring it on in you know at the end of him. The Packers that way at that point they want to move on while there."

Play from 11:27[11:27]" and it's going to be divided it there's packer fans a lot of understand the game of football and realized that they put all the time and Aaron Rodgers all these diapers and the threat curse of Green -- nation. Who thinks that rough bark at the right to hold it -- hostage argument that mine hole you know I homer I'm homer. But you know when you waited to come down probably snowboarding you're old. That the -- I'm White but that I want the next guy I wasn't I -- I want away what I wanted to and I know I argument for that would be that they got the NFC championship game last year with our -- Where where were you I don't hear that it was a I overtime with a championship game they apparently wouldn't be in the Patriot because the Giants have. Terrible terrible where did you come down on the -- celebrate anything to one day but well no the end of terrible purple at that. That at a time and time when -- other night time this kind of reminds me of the Bledsoe Brady and where did you come down that was -- in the when when it became clear that they are going to write a pitcher -- absolutely even ball. And forgetting that the -- bloods okay hold -- jock -- and -- on the -- talking about -- I'm talking about as low -- Okay at the at the end there towards the end of his Patriots career Farr took the team. The NFC championship game -- one of his best seasons of his career. And -- that completely different thing editor Roger. Hasn't proven it and Bledsoe came back after like fifteen or sixteen games often -- lead the team to the superbowl and Pittsburgh won that I mean we want as if that was rolled up wildwood the air the guy came down the greatness but let's hope for -- got to the -- pretty amazing at some point. At the it's a totally different thing because far was overtime away from -- have no doubt about it that two years ago are looked like he was gone through years ago three years ago -- four years ago yeah I there was no -- got a little bit. You know crazy and throw the ball up for grab got a little bit more or. And they were winning games but. They won the -- well -- to give -- it -- obviously but it is there if -- the Packers. They start -- rough Marco I don't know. Washington right. The Packers are one and for the Redskins are four Juan can you know what's going to happen in Green Bay added that -- don't -- at the -- thing about the Dolphins when they had Marino toward the the the big holding the -- lead actually in Rio they had a bowl -- an -- agreement can go look at the Packers maybe at a championship game last year -- these guys they'll be getting that I remember that would gamble but all lefty could barely walk. They can go to the AFC championship game the Packers were seconds away from -- the Super Bowl that the difference. -- added I'm not defending I think -- should go away. Does making it how are all right -- and if you or -- I say I would say thank you -- you want one in the comeback all take a guy getting it right at your back -- got eight people and argue the other -- you guys have enough off. Goldfish it and it -- do every one but the argument could be made it go Arnold and why are our values of course I think that. If you voted the in Green Bay fans vote it would come. We want Aaron Rodgers we want to move the Bulls it would be close -- yeah thank but I think by putting I think -- camp would win now I think. Because it would -- Fred that they like they have a good D -- okay Ryan Grant came on a little bit running back they have good result the the fan with a all far as an experienced guy he's a guy can beat this team comparable Rogers. We might not obvious superbowl contender right that's. People want to win right now in a far okay. But I that he keeps hold franchise hot out there for I've got a clean break point -- And -- and after three games. He's back to where two years ago what you do now right -- the other thing is to. I think Super Bowls are won I think -- like mark. When teams are together and they do everything together. I don't think you win -- Super Bowl -- in all. And far there's been no words with these guys it'll Roger has been in the weight rule -- and -- Roger did in the weight room he's been working with the receiver part of the leader now. It valued at how far is coming why Holyfield -- old Domonique Hampton."

Play from 16:26[16:26]" Here's here's the other thing. Three or four years have not passed and far retired. One has changed in -- two or three months and he gave this big -- about he was done and and have bought what change about about that whole situation looked of people say. While he was crying that podium that he's well I was one of them when we were doing the regular -- You don't remember you what you had for lunch yesterday come that I had I had lunch yesterday whatever. You know that where people in your putting up -- that group Eric it was -- He led the charge believe I learned a lot I want combined. But my point is if if -- felt this way then. The Packers had to have known that he felt this way then. And if now they're considering bring him back why did they just get this over with back then and they look don't retire will will bring it back what has changed has -- on second thought that's what you wanted to retire. I don't think he did -- that's on -- I don't think he did. While a lot of people think what he really want to play for another team he doesn't want to play for the Packers but he come out they should handle the -- so."

Play from 17:37[17:37]" that that's the part I don't yet. Last year. There was three or four may be better teams in the NFL of the Packers -- to you don't -- the Cowboys don't want them. The Colts don't want them the Patriots don't want to go Chargers -- the Chargers don't aware you work out going you know maybe the Giants don't want yeah. I don't money thing. But -- how -- in the place that you hero like Washington in the jet on Carolina life. So teams are often I and I thought that the Redskins had their quarterback of the future and you have a chance to our media far. -- one went right now you mentioned -- Ultimately that's what I say the team you don't use your associated with them those teams RD but as good as the Packers. I don't get the whole -- on the plate for I don't know I just -- he always regarded brilliantly."

Play from 18:27[18:27]" Really you guys might be Wright -- Tom might be right about the whole thing. You're right about the -- at the older players about getting voted the pitch well -- I voted for Banco because only one remember. And -- brought a for a while it a stripper who who whose job more -- play what. Is that that I is that the guy Paul back even though are all problem Matta yes I always getting into the it was at someone gave up one -- in the AFL days and it closed up one -- Paul -- opinion John Moore Lola alleys but I. My neighbors -- the Pro Bowl year they. Well I really don't know Patriot -- he was the that are -- the page and ever think I'd tell what you were before you were on the begin -- right. They go to players' email and a few people in the Hall of Fame now that I don't think but I you US a lot of -- families and tell the third along group. I capital will we're going to make room for this Jon Morris and I would you mind you know it will certainly do that I have to do that -- the bad guy out. What have primark -- retired number thing we awful we gotta we gotta bring back the nobody get and number. I don't agree with. Maybe I'm don't know I know what to play though number 123 -- retired retired all three went all time I read that three people cannot. -- ended on paper right at it because you know the Packers -- the -- program there. And they have like five numbers -- and the Patriots have added. It's for the best of the bat it's it's for the marine -- the -- way my guys like that -- little playing time guys who were in -- jump the gun. Fifteen years ago when -- but he did that when they had done it. Patriots what what did fifteen retiring -- had to do that if I reached the top before ID with the best that. You know the bar now I'd -- I mean that's kind of the best that -- that you want it made you know. I mean a lot of -- might have been a good player while the Patriot. But is it all happened -- on the -- the Dolphins you know he's an all big sort of quietly at -- But you know the rate Tom -- reached on a -- You know retired numbers."

Play from 21:21[21:21]" Yeah but the ones we just throughout there and a -- those guys -- can't -- I out Hawaii and there though radio -- those -- three best players to ever played for the Patriot right there right to retire the gray -- Mike Haynes would have been categorically no I agree ability to like the half. In Dallas eight M and a and -- yeah yeah. But the little and oh -- talk about it like retiring number other than that in. With different at night we get a call them. You know the Brian Martin but it got these two guys are in the trial the editors Chris were goalie. It's only cut out here you got Chris Ferreira tell them what to do it by the way -- local people the Italian dominance has -- is continuing for a hello. That's Chris played on and Tony is exactly he'll likely to be able to read period you bet Chris for -- tell you what to do this morning I came in and told him. Forget everything that I pulled graduated from Varian Brothers very thing which academic and crossed career you're academic all American right. Don't -- you are going up on this lacrosse and Tony cuts not to goes to -- Where you're and to warn that awful it is only -- am embarrassed to tell a little bit about that Tony while the match economic."

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Play from 25:06[25:06]" Gone wrong with that but it but let's look beyond all female -- work here with a yeah its culture these people they think we're bad on the air you've never gone out the E with a on the road -- Forget about it I can really eat your right Gary not their approach that Paul -- Oh I like you have -- if you like five of them that are that are going to take my bide your old job some renown yet while the fans the side. They decided they weren't on the side they didn't -- you gone to via W progress dot com there's a lot of well. There's a ground spoil what was james' low blow -- not even on the poll asked what was the ball today would Eric I don't they had a -- there are they're goals let's get whenever there's been but there's been there's been a groundswell Fred. -- Al made a good point and James maybe you could help me with a idle threat -- You know the TV shows we've done quite a particularly I have news about that by any I don't -- in the off -- I'd ever paid to party think Al made the point about like I'm Dave what don't watch her kids one -- that your what I did with the Patriots. And I don't have like India any -- old James I don't you have a video you could put that -- a -- for me I pay you for your time. A couple of quarter I don't know what to do -- he abbey having kids now also not pain James for the dvd give it right there's no doubt about that but all. What do you think about the taking impotence. You can do that yet beyond probably want to -- it down my on go have a the -- mean they'll tell. -- now. Then I'd have to. You know I -- I cooked steak or. How can I think it went just pretend that that happen than that I don't but walk away tees I don't know what's going on that must mean. I you know I would want to be a father -- him. How she lives with the I don't do not know that she thinks like there's something more -- think you're in this event is -- that you're going to change if you -- she thinks one night the kid and I keep telling her it's not going to matter I don't want I think you might you know why. I guess because of the dog. Now I either way you liked that -- now you're stick it in the main point here I like dogs more than people here here's -- three more bad news they're getting -- you like they'll I don't blame you for that but when you have it is like. You know what -- well. Oh you're an equitable adopt yeah as it. Clippers -- it comes out to be like ten pounds three -- and then you're -- your hopes -- that -- you were talking about the -- might -- little -- if it's -- got a -- to grow -- well. -- okay. Are right outlet radio a good thing James that Jay Cutler Jersey came -- like the thing Jay Cutler to get at PF -- and our conference announcement order wanna. Very jealous -- fits perfect. Just -- Very good Edmonton at all did you I gotta give -- props that perfect push up the fumble it's a good one of the best workouts ever. At by the way they're. -- I do look 300 of those and 300 crunch is only day you want to work out what that went a little kinda shape or in a Brennaman amendment. Oh I say he can't do 45. Yeah."

Play from 28:43[28:43]" Okay that we could actually yeah don't have to go to -- him at all parole for all we have by the way. You guys never -- acted out and you never played basketball where did. We got what do you got a great basketball mind pool affected -- work you going to be at the party. You know I did depends we -- to take the dog to New York and neither do Friday Saturday. I'll try to make it would go to Vegas this weekend -- come for an -- play Ferreira -- and we. All right so you bring the perfect what you will have put that. Will be which I I wanted him. -- All right come on that I don't know -- they can't carry a greater and I'd be out -- I don't know Eric I'm going to be honest with the that's harder on the floor a private caliber it's much harder than to push it. -- 23 but he can do -- pushed all five. -- okay well all -- now showing up. Outlook of -- Nineteen more calmly or lower. Another area to area I -- Tom I can do a hundred. Okay what thirty. Now Eric he's just that there. How that looked good bye to my point is there much harder to do with the perfect push our little bit harder I'll give you that until you get good to use -- for awhile I -- lot of trouble were -- to hit thirty put -- Oh why. I think Al can do thirty push -- I mean I -- base of what you guys say about it that's pretty. He's not in good -- I just like the part as none of us are good -- pick up for him apart I think it's comical. Beyond the part about him running red -- I -- a 35 year old me and want to read for all comical."