Camp-Cast - 08/04/2008

[2:28] ..." lineage and -- linebacker in recent years rookies but Patrick Willis DeMeco Ryans guys who have come and rookie of the year. Pro -- that type. I feel like what I'm seeing over the last"...

[7:23] ..." Never seen Oliver Ross in person I have never seen him or Randy Moss. Wes Welker Benjamin Watson David Thomas who did return on Sunday practiced"...

[11:30] ..." and it is impressive return ability as we've seen I think in Bethel Johnson. You know Ellis Hobbs had a lot of success or his had a lot of success but I don't know that you"...

[14:00] ..." position he's equally impressive on that do which is by the name Joshua Cribbs is being brought up because he's a guy that has excelled both in coverage. In return abilities I made the Pro Bowl"...

[0:07]" Pieces of podcast from Patriots dot com. On Baltimore preparations today and tonight tomorrow so can get a three days and on the and that's where we're at this point because I didn't see him tonight. You know going to get the environment and the support situations analysts Patriot podcast slide from Gillette Stadium in Foxboro -- is that we've been welcome. Different. And got here in all three phases of the game and it will zero and more on one another minute rule I don't know. It will it goes now with your Patriots 2008 training camp update the -- of Patriot football weekly. Once again live to hard."

[0:47]" Drive from Gillette Stadium. Other training camp podcast. Boys at PFW are back in town the ball has left so we have our studio back. Not the boss prepares the -- and -- watching it actually at a -- not the big boss Bruce Springsteen in town over the week interest concert but he's gone. Patriots are back in business. We just that team for me morning and and and determine an opportunity practice of sorts in full pads but a long list of veterans not on the field. After pretty intriguing weekend of action as well we might want to recaps some of that Paul Perillo alongside Eric galloping on colonel Paul. I believe you termed one play from weekend that he didn't have a chance talk about and podcast the play of camp -- did when young Gerard -- stopped Laurence Maroney at the."

[1:32]" Well I continue to be more more impressed with him on as every practice goes by he's now running. You know that they with the ones he's the next to Bruschi why he was there all day on Saturday he said he stayed there on Sunday flying around I think Indy -- He's getting better and better the players talk about Indy live goal line -- He had a quick off tackle run from -- to his side it wasn't that he -- rule you know and open gap in shoddy depth at tackle he get in you know. It is responsibilities took on the guard. And -- Quick. You know real compact but explode as well you could hear it throughout the field now everybody just stopped and looked in deep cut. Very excited about it and it was good -- goal line play not met the one yard line by continue to be impressed by and read."

[2:21]" I do -- and I'm I'm Marty going with -- he doesn't hit one of those rookie plateaus. You know we talked about in the offseason once he was drafted. The lineage and -- linebacker in recent years rookies but Patrick Willis DeMeco Ryans guys who have come and rookie of the year. Pro -- that type. I feel like what I'm seeing over the last week plus for Mayo. -- all right in line with that I mean moving into the first group flying around showing. Run ability pass defense ability pass rush ability and I think the thing I'm most intrigued by Eric it is the mean streak he plays he does. -- you know he. The old and they they get there in a hurry and in a bad mood. To me that that that's what he has yet and -- he's seems to be the total up off the field very. Very while spoken very friendly guide -- talked through but on the field he's got that streak that you talked about. And I think as far as his learning curve I think it's been very steep over the last few days that's why that's the one bit of caution I want to. If he's just hitting a phase where for some reason over 45 days you know that in him and he hit it and at some point maybe that slows down which it's going to. Because let's be honest were still in the pre season there are throwing more more adamant that close and -- game planning on bar for right now. I think you know the only optimism for Patriots fans if you're out there because drug and it was looking like what you'd expect from a guy drafted. Number ten overall and who's expected to be the future of the position he was talking last week about. Being on the field and having to think as opposed to react and he said you know -- still look at a lot of thinking to do but. I've been seeing him react a lot more I was gonna say that's stroke he was almost hard on himself when -- about -- if that's true. That we might have the next Mike singletary is on the because he. I've been impressed with him course and react right."

[4:08]" All to another one to another player and Saturday practice. And in pass coverage we've seen him I'd be very athletic and cover a lot of base camp a couple of a lot of ground in those drills. Another goal line play it over right as Ben Watson was. You know not on him might have been one might have been anymore can't remember which one. Three -- but it it it was short you know in in the flat and it was you know and very contacts based on the red area. And he got it right the ball did and -- and I you know stripped down and knock the ball should have been completion. In the offense damp and probably drop but it was a great play by mail and get a hand in -- And it was -- what Benjamin Watson but I'm not positive but still a great about me."

[4:53]" Left over tidbits from the weekend. Players came back from the apiece and pretty notable players Wes Welker. Ellis Hobbs and Bo -- On Paul you you -- Saturday's practice when they return to the field Welker I guess was a little rusty had a few drops. But just a good thing to those two starters in key contributors back on the field that still a pretty early point him."

[5:11]" Yeah and now it was funny because Welker actually looked like he'd left off last year in terms of flying around come and -- the middle. You know coming in and out of the slot inside out he was opened and looked like a -- but. He dropped a couple at which we never saw last act that you -- the whole campanella. Without the ball in the ground once and in anything that was intended for and -- he was really you know I was frustrated he expressed that a little bit we talked about it afterward and he spent about thirty minute after practice on the jugs machine J he's -- talking about the quick line throws. You know in other -- Brady put a little extra on it. From in tight though we'll once given probably at its timing would -- granted that -- I think is not anywhere near close to being ready to go and he admitted as much he appeared to be. Win data at times during the -- took and he with the helmet off. Several time on the practice and he talked about more in this -- participation right now for him not practicing he's not ready to go but he was apt to BO."

[6:12]" And it makes sense because. Reportedly had both shoulder in -- and teachers with bank and you know when you have a lot of body issue okay you can do the the arm by you conducive lifting. But when you have -- top and bottom. I mean you basically happy April like offseason and you do nothing by the -- and Andy Bob oh absolutely and and at that that was the one thing he told himself after I -- these -- and it and do nothing and that's it. I'm. Well rested and recovered from the injuries -- and which recap. And if that -- at that time I'm not surprised that it on the field okay let's go quickly turn the page today's work out as a setup they have an opportunity practice not on the field this morning. Twelfth. -- and yet I don't know number which they I got that on but some of the others echo my isn't by Tom Brady and Webb Ellis Hobbs Sammy Morris. Who's talking in the back. James Sanders. Rodney Harrison Kyle tackle Tedy Bruschi Mike Vrabel the -- Stephen Neal the UP Ryan Callahan Matt Light. 76 who Oliver all across the you speak -- my. Brand I have."

[7:23]" Never seen Oliver Ross in person I have never seen him or Randy Moss. Wes Welker Benjamin Watson David Thomas who did return on Sunday practiced over the weekend but is now back out. Now Richard Seymour and then he UP years Jarvis Green and Mike -- so that was all the guys that out there. As not optional on as I said a lot of guys get a chance you know try to get a taste of -- on Thursday lot of Mac hassle with the offense. Then Kevin O'Connell rotating in. Matt Gutierrez and those quarterbacks have been the talk of the town last couple days with in how the -- might unfold on one thing I've pointed at you while Matt Gutierrez the last two cracked in a row has spent. Significant time 2030 minutes on the field. With just a ball boy. Any cameraman from the video department video in every single broke teammate. And I'm wondering what your take is on."

[8:17]" While and what sort of talking to him about it which might have been active -- do if you could spot while that I do what he was throwing for a video guy couldn't talk to a I would think he's probably maybe feel he's struggling a little bit with -- it looked at the break them down probably -- with -- with Josh -- point as well. Maybe it's kinda you know break in at all down and try to put back together we speculate that maybe Kevin O'Connell had done an image try to rework his mechanic as a bit robotic in his throws and he seemed to have. It changed the dial little bit that we saw that rookie mini -- way back in May oh. Maybe Gutierrez John Olerud and issues I -- point it speculate as we talked about it."

[8:57]" I talk knows residents into -- and he's doing that is I thought of all the quarterbacks he was having one of the better yeah -- I thought I had a decent camp and it actually caught my -- the second day I think one day you say well and they do they try to maybe -- all the quarterbacks at some point during camp. But two days in her so. To meet tells me there's a little more to it than just you know normal coaching like he's gotten as many -- The last he has only been a lot with a O'Connell -- and O'Connell to be getting more of those -- equally. -- I would expect those guys play in game most innocent. Gutierrez. And Kevin O'Connell yesterday sort of surprise me saying he looked back to playing get some -- and -- Thursday night even though bill. Hasn't exactly gone over a doubt are critically do you think -- starts makes cameo maybe -- say you know it's not what I would I would know I don't I wouldn't be surprised -- sounds like he's not going right away. And he expects to play a lot you -- it all game to cut it. He definitely expects. Now. Guaranteed to get four guys. Out and he is not an easy and -- Yeah honesty is a cameo for Brady but I'd rather -- even if it had a -- it only so many areas as I wanna 910 series and people always try to -- built down at first quarterly do you can't -- as the first -- and thirty plays QB Henri. And -- the rest of the game on -- team gets the ball put together. Along drive that you go three and out and a long drive it was the first quarter in Europe via the three point oh. -- guaranteed and get four. Okay."

[10:38]" Moving on to the the rest of the guys on the field today be on the quarterback a guy I spoke with. And now I guy I think has really made a splash Fred Kirsch favored here PFW. Is Matthew Slater. First with a no prep props yeah he's he's no longer wearing a white Jersey he now -- the blue number eighteen. Signifying to come to -- degree a slop to defense although today. He was wearing yellow any when playing offense which basically means nothing because when he had the white Jersey he was wearing a penny to play defense and I asked bill about and he left it up to me so you can I'm basically allowed they would -- I want in my opinion on -- always played always dangerous -- it -- opinions to myself one an area that's not up for debate. The -- second year when he hit a whole. On kick return he hit that first wave any species daylight. He takes it and he's gone and it is impressive return ability as we've seen I think in Bethel Johnson. You know Ellis Hobbs had a lot of success or his had a lot of success but I don't know that you got the lot. That you get from when you -- later kicking it into and it that next year the more. Certainly that's his way to make the roster because he's doing all the different things and he was actually asked today. If he feels like he has a primary position and I'm not sure he does just."

[11:58]" Do one deliveries in Memphis. Is that bonds coming out and apparently if I am. So this visiting -- use -- Off -- sun is coming out. And -- look at that means continue work on. -- I don't. Oh something and you know definite must be I think he'll neatly it's -- team unit that returned going to be as good as you guys -- it's always fun have ten guys blocking year you know with the great athletes we have about halfway. It is it makes it a lot easier on the return when there's. Whole little lightness of the team effort and we have great guys have for a and you go -- did. As you blockers have -- we have great guys across the board and he said about you know did. Us. Would it definitely. Has to -- in the game close ties to it's -- year. You meditation -- is probably -- nature -- that place so -- veteran of the inning sometimes he would be -- And it's like it's he would not enough but that's its nature."

[13:16]" You know couple things about later he talked in the court about. You know crediting his blockers upfront but it seemed to me like. Of all the guys during the kick returns he seems to get the best blocking. And make during that makes it look the art turner makes the blockers I -- I've always believed that I know there's on the -- he's been my humble about Europeans like arresting some returns dance around here. The blockers can't possibly hold their blocks long and right if you hit it quickly and a half pass block that barely got a guy out of the way looks like a great block because they show the replay like -- he does a good job of Reading that block at a time and then when he sees at opening it he says he's got that's -- community goes right through. The other thing I like about him is that you usually have a guy who's either a good returner or good Garner. One or the other he seemed to even when they tournament under or rep position he's equally impressive on that do which is by the name Joshua Cribbs is being brought up because he's a guy that has excelled both in coverage. In return abilities I made the Pro Bowl Italy last year for the Browns and he later was asked about those guys in the obvious comparison New England. One Troy Brown because of the offense the defense and special teams and I will say check -- Patriots football weekly coming on newsstands tomorrow is a photo of Matthew Slater returning. A kick and it looks like Troy Brown. That same compact running dial the -- Fear eyes coming three there's there's a look there later is going to try to avoid that comparison for good reason you don't want to be compared to living legend before you played in in the pre season game. But I think he's going to continue to draw."

[14:44]" I don't want to give to. Your day that there's going to be on the road team. Staples special teams -- come. No comparison. All in all he yeah I saw here Troy Brown grass rot away playground would have been here ten times better had he had the speed and a master so -- it is blessed. I think. You know. Beat the we relate to the party -- we skeptical to understand why it topic I don't cut out on the back. In the back I'm by still holding off until he plays in a full contact -- we on the field the speed is a different level Fred was right -- was wrong and kind of surprising to that the Donovan. An offensive lineman. Is blessed with that speed yeah -- you normally be you'd be -- all the -- from the treatment yeah. But they're both. NFL players at -- all right -- the and just before -- close at one of my favorite drill of camp with that -- on. Break up tackling. Break off tackling in the practice where you had some of the special teams work ten yards apart come on one on one. -- Parental the head of Tampa laying out. He had evidence -- camp out into the hit of the day okay Heath -- break -- tackling Vince -- making a run at the right time pre season action right on the around the corner -- and I and big red. And more importantly keep an eye and the podcasts here Patriots dot com will we keep you up to date to all the practice action here for Angeles. And so."

[16:13]" Always it's much too soon make that compares -- that -- recognize. And leave when you keep him in on this youngster trying to learn the ropes. And you know what he was able the -- career and I really admire and respect for what I'm trying to close -- and you can't make it."

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