PFW in Progress - 8/21/2008

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[2:28]" He's got the -- guy. Your average like a Nolan has been on the el Al felt okay he directed them well. It changed my it's it's a terrific comedy is entertainment weekly. The bodies that last time it's it's a movie birds and I like -- analysts and beat any sort of generally have a generation up with the -- yes. Generation generation would that be. Janitors who turned -- you know -- that thirty them all right welcome that PFW progress the games are here. I -- Is the Paul Gary Eric. -- agenda the -- here you know it's not here food. No food well game Kenny don't screw you screwed -- on in Canada I said he was going to buy food. And and -- crap you know atrocity I well. Each other variety. And they all the time eight. Web radio pages that covers email address web radio -- count five point 543 of four we have our off. I'm actually kind of shocking news site like this morning you know option -- dead at 63. No one knew that I know of that had pancreatic Q and I guess according to some reports he -- know with -- I'll real real that he had he had cancer and it was downhill from there there's there's. So. You know really a big surprise to everyone in. You know besides being an awful that it news creates a big vacuum now. Because negotiations. Have to go on sooner or later for the upcoming into the collective bargaining agreement though. I'm sure there's a big scramble right now who's going to fill in while for a guy who's really bad and the guys were what the last twenty years twenty plus when he went lawlessness but but -- scrambled -- because there's been a movement afoot. To try to get him might actually play outside the players alone might at their minority that those. -- minority Abbott what happens is that true but -- never a guy who's going to -- never. A bird he got a Kevin way right. Right it has been a guy who was kind of against you know struck him in my way it's been warned him so who is now that guy that'd be I don't know it. You have to out of its -- because. You know you're on the weak side -- we negotiated with who is and they want to -- to build Spurs. In the longer that spot does get built the tougher going to be in like Mike Florio -- the morning you can probably look forward to that uncapped year 2000. They'll always way -- that an apartment and I don't mean what -- negotiating with that's -- I'm asking if I'm right. -- and going to you know it's been resolved by somebody and support won't let it get resolved. The more is that a but I what is the most time duty to take the result a year. And that's going to make it uncapped year. Because then in the you know what actually I I think it would I think this will make them result -- sooner. Because I think if if I do -- if -- which were still alive I think he would try to fight it. And anyone who would emerge he would try to campaign against an order now there's no opposition right. -- again if this makes it much easier to get somebody not let this that vision with the eight. I'm going to make treatment a you'll. Have been disrespectful there's only beat the -- like he was -- problem you're assuming that he was part of the rob you're assuming that there is no faction within the union itself which we don't know is true accurately. You know. What is it is easy. On the side of management or not because a lot of people criticize them for being in the pocket of the of the of the week so the next guy's gonna gonna come and and try to be mr. tough guy. To show that he's not like gene Upshaw and that's got not going to beat up the price. So."

[6:31]" But I think the problem was he wasn't working on behalf of the players and I think the players would be happier to. Compromise with. The owners. If there are confident that the guided is doing the compromising his working -- I don't think they had their confidence okay it will get lost that confidence but I I mean why would you jump automatically to uncapped year. And there's a lot of time and -- only holds almost no chance and it's not like you start from scratch."

[6:57]" Second the guy can. The issues have been on the table for a wild. They negotiated him but they had a deal once they they backtrack now a little bit in terms that played out but yet it all depends on if this does or doesn't cause factions within the union itself I want this guy I want that guy. With the owners the owners had the -- problems with that rolled out of the issue of the revenue among themselves that was blowing the now what. Now what surface is whether or not. The union to -- as its own. We don't know rental we find out but we'll find out either way they're going to. Figure that out I would think and there's going to be replaced. I -- that that's the big news today coming out of the NFL. If we want to talk about that we can -- where Brady or -- dot com also. Patriot news guys what's going on. Today it was not a day for Belichick that. -- that -- Or player availability is sort of like Saturday if we were in the regular season is that it'd that are."

[8:02]" Those are my favorite part of these we -- bill comes out and tells. Today's final Friday of those. The way he handled that just makes me laugh like every single time he does. Finally Lee told that yesterday it was kind of like a Thursday with -- the they like upright I'll -- but the fact that this particular week coming -- shortly and it should all put on a he's mister mister who pulled a short week because every show we get along week has really fallen into we've got to go back sure we kind of just like we just got back while -- actually read it you know shall we. It's been fun neatly he's been very did. Very -- to deal with it. So well -- news we have to share with people prior to. Third pre game tomorrow -- also ready to practice. Now signing through it. Mike Gordon -- It was going to Oakland. In my -- I don't like that's up as a lineman from on me. There Friday and Thursday Friday. Along with a long list for. Yeah it's operated practice. Sorry I want to -- with Tom -- went 165 -- is -- right there. Could this mean that jerk Welbourn a cut on one cronje. -- and over. The amateur girl -- really screw me on many levels. But he's doing you all week is -- speculative -- hasn't been announced -- and had no idea it was but -- The bill told him -- eat glad to have regular in the -- that. Is ultimately presence of me. So we don't know Brady practiced yesterday means anything -- and I I would like to -- the actually practice. Stretched you know you -- been available for the media window and -- round didn't do much. I'd like not a model."

[9:57]" You know I know I think as good argument -- it and am going to write about it and the updated does he really need to. Play all the pre season they go back Deion Branch back in 5 they set -- the entire season because -- injury plagued season o'clock at career highs across the board. Last year Randy Moss doesn't play all the pre season that's -- so Tom Brady really need to play. Is that position more important because of the effect it has on the other players and he -- a wide receiver who's just on his own. And doesn't really affect the rest of the team by not playing I think Brady. Possibly backs have more if he sits out the entire."

[10:35]" Right yet you know pick as you'll he might not have an advocate inaccurate. Performance. Based on that you know -- Enron and -- you know defensive -- so I'd -- I think he's he's I have a couple he might have a couple of new targets this year he's going to use morning in the past only needed to be timing. Developed that they can't do you know what the what authority did last year with his new targets and really -- better -- though they are -- otherwise -- Colorado wasn't and he. Turned him into a player I mean I think -- an easy -- yeah I'd rather he set out to eat chicken ran through and make it chickened out of Hamlet we talked about the last show I agree that amount but they can't play maybe -- you. Tomorrow I'll that you actually know what -- that again we cannot. Cut ties with Manning and Brady they do everything together and went two for those who Bulls when those that it has been breaking touchdown -- and now they're you know he's he's he's got a lot at this point. I would rather see him not play the pre season because. I'd rather get Cassell Gutierrez more time to try to sort that out as well as are there there is the third season and you think he's going to play at least half. I would say give them all the shot that they -- to prove that one and that's. You know what it takes the back in my seat on the format Cassell into another half hour on the other half of football and ripped by commentators. On creaky making fun of them."

[11:53]" You thought about -- nobody minds of that cap had to say about that a little bit down the Brady -- that the state funded -- that a little bit. A worthy NFL network guys a little bit too harsh on him. I think ticker Brady's as a grain of salt and on the team right but as our -- pressing I don't read at -- that he really responded to an opponent works out specifically -- So obviously he had heard of them play by the -- to ours I told my my my budget dumped on. Really -- and unjustifiably for a what I those are pretty he warrants them. That it was a little bit better than in the game before so he wanted -- in the game."

[12:31]" I don't want to make it out to be that he was star or anything but I thought it was fine and now I thought that -- reactions of the game was well you know. Let let me to believe that he thought it was fine till now I know that billed as the throw was placed under the bus he's not going to make them look like the area they went out there and stumbled all over the place but. I got the impression I -- I think we -- we've been around bill long enough now to kind of get a read on. How he felt I I I gotta read after the game that he didn't feel like that --"

[12:57]" All the hype for what gave us the bad impression of the game. Was that first half a terrible got into that. You know you're thinking about that route that. That we go the last nine of mine yeah. And like we had at least 23 drops that would have you know up he was for -- citizen I think answered hitting it right that's debatable. I -- and sharper which are -- and -- yet but in his -- depending -- that -- that's what he's paid to do give an opinion he often and wasn't moving any -- Larry and I get all the as the -- and I didn't agree with it but he. That's we need to be like on March Lara was giggling harder I don't have my opinion on IP eight it's like. I wouldn't need to do not always argued that -- you don't evidently -- Joe Morgan we -- he figured it ground ball short he throws the first out too well thanks I."

[13:49]" I think but I think it drawing shoppers in the argument when. -- coming and having -- I think people questioning his opinion and all -- criticized for being too critical well I well I think it based on the performance I think he's -- cried about his quarterback while others he's really critical part means it is through your opinion and I were two critical any targets while I have my opinions oh well they'll fit into your opinion we we know that Kapler. But that the problem I have with the negativity was in an architect and it was in the Boston herald yesterday yeah. After the very first if -- has talked about was when he was the most critical 11. Plate and he had -- Cooper put -- After one -- I'm sorry that not of objective criticism. I think that's wrong that just you know. Reactionary whacko I bet that's and he was all I want pass play he he wants to put the third string quarterback."

[14:45]" Now they're not about Brady back in last year none of us are none of us further comments live as were in the press box obviously but and and I've never been a sterling Sharpe apologist but. Reading the text of what that blow hard he is kind of a blow hard but -- the tech of what he said and then in the interview he had the one on when he had with the Harold. It sounded like he was saying that his criticism wasn't a built up frustration over the the three. Previous years counsel's been here now he's in his fourth he -- at this point is in his career he should be better than the rookie and it the guy with little experience who who is fighting for the job against. And I and you know what I gotta say I don't think that two harsher criticism at this point thing."

[15:23]" I think is -- guys anybody. I don't know what they'll watch right now Kevin O'Connell on the last two games and watch the Gutierrez and -- done in you don't think that the -- and castle like yours and I don't know we'll -- we don't want comparing him to a first year quarterback. Or Gutierrez we want to compare to other guys who have been in the league for four years at a backup and you know unfortunately. He's got a guy. Like Brady who might be the best ever. That you know this huge drop it hurts when -- don't -- that on Tuesday you know part of it is to the criticism was was that the fact that Brady goes down team screwed. We get that anyway that's a Carl's a puck at the plays and pre season game pretty goes down the team is. Close to finish if not and it's so it really doesn't meet -- with the criticism of the game by game performance we know the teams -- out there. Regards -- Well I don't I don't think that's it to be -- not part of the criticism into artistic team -- what he does."

[16:21]" Be fair to play devil's advocate for castle here divorcing exact same thing before Brady went into that Jets game. Yeah 2001. -- and let's logos on the season over the he's not winning -- that Alou is this team is awful. And look what happened what we had never even seen Brady. Play even partly on the little priest and try it you know you -- wasn't lineup the world looking -- pre season games from Cassell were a number years. But I mean well it's really hard this is the fourth pre season -- Had to read. What the one difference who it is Brady's in his prime play -- in his prime. So I think -- slight difference. There's more of a chance for yell out artist and I think that an accurate call or let's go. To go -- started long before that. You know. Well let's it was an anywhere near that point wasn't that when it was -- this is it a shot at -- which has now right Tom Brady's gonna go down as one of the greatest ever. The drop off between Brady -- I was very good at my point it has ever known. I mean in what what his -- was not the drop off once and as it is. My I don't really get algerians and in -- and rightly although look at the Colts of the you know. -- is one of the best ever put him -- to go in there but he hits apiece what is he knows what he's -- I let him go it'd it has Ottawa played he's yeah he's never done anything in the league career started. Our. Titles sounds -- again tied together they don't have a back up together but he authorities -- it. I don't know if he's going to be on an idea that it was a great it was concentrated now now is his numbers are you watch a lot of Wisconsin game I was counting guys that are coming his numbers -- better."

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[18:07]" Biden I don't think that's ever played any meaningful those -- how to play any meaningful. Ever. Everett added a book that's the thing that I also spread you that you -- compared to guys similar experience. Both. There's not really anyone -- mean. He's sort of are are all one of a kind rarity. Of playing college Stephen Neal. Except get to practice with the team everyday yeah. He put it that's right you whether you feel like. Israelis in the -- and he really played one adult low level right. But he still had a year but he had some a lot of Gutierrez and good. Annoyed yeah they're Bruno is assuming that shoulder is not going to -- beat old Matt -- What's more they need but not. Yet. I don't know. I don't. At this point I think he needs every snap you can and he -- if he's going to -- numbers do I think he needs to get a read and specialists and -- two -- I'll have to lead -- now."

[19:09]" says after the first pre season game I was ready to give us by accident but after the second game I was rethinking. Yet he threw what it abetted inception of its first -- didn't Brady do that wants after that he threw nine more path -- should have all been completed. They were also short yardage but it took what the deepens gave him under it and -- a blitz scheme without turning the ball over. The fumble was clearly -- well I saw him reading the defense and making adjustments before the snap a beat the only thing he lacks is experience. It seems like he if he had a couple real games under his belt. He'd be fine not Brady but probably as good as any other backup available to the Patriots at this time it just seems well not in the media are try to get pats in the panic -- who soon. I'm much more -- about the quarterback of the O line in depth that inside linebacker. White picket in terms of what you can learn about yep well back up a quarterback is up there on the way."

[20:06]" Let me -- if you know all of it but the back quarterbacks a lot of teams have. You know pretty good situations -- back quarterback like Damon Huard. Do you think it's worth it to happen like that make in two million dollars a year. On the Patriots would you would would people rather have that in and maybe I let me it was somewhere else but it depends that it just what is that year at that I would ask somebody who can -- If I don't know enough I absolutely in a vacuum I would feel better with him Hewitt at the old I thought I would -- the Brady -- it -- I just think I -- that for a long time you're going to compete for a title. In two games could really swing your seasons -- I'd like to have Damon Huard to -- to me that's worth. Whatever I need to invest within reason in this spot I don't and I don't think Iran -- the -- list as a question how many good teams have good back usually teams have good back -- the guys competed harder it is easy to media -- could not one great one like Ben Roethlisberger who is back. Only bad throw it out left which I think well at Giants worked with David Carr as the teams and good. At. Time and I was trying to go through the elite quarterback of the but I just think top few. Now and but it is going to go to the playoffs it was -- make. If -- going to go to the playoff teams the Giants as an example and eight but it the Titans are an example with. Vince young and Terry Collins but on -- I'm not -- Now. You know. The Chargers with the label behind Philip Rivers I think that's good -- it security if that's pretty good situation example -- I'd -- about what you have to wait if you look at two year window I would I would -- might have a very good back but I need to do with -- my window as if I'm by no pretty. Confidently and competing for a title. I would want to go back up because it probably would agree with. Plus -- the final there that. Campus meaningless that you can that would be -- there I'll pick as if you're if you're a team that's competing. And and it all right when your quarterback if you -- someone right behind him who can step in you don't feel I mean he's virtually the only position in football that. You'd done if if you get enough that any other position and I feel like built in scheme and make things work on a good championship team for a couple weeks whatever but. You quarterback is is Artrell Hawkins is right don't get by but anything -- dining -- and aren't that. I wonder how Michael right it is. I wonder how much of a difference in a disaster. It would be between one of these journeyman guys not quite good enough. Like Hewitt. Of the world. And opened the guys don't. Like -- I wonder how much difference there I I don't I don't think -- they would win a lot of games with Damon -- got a lot of people -- while for Damon who was the quarterback I'm not one now -- three years I'm not -- the -- acting talent they now he can still go over to two game stretch not -- to -- I don't know I think in general like. The AFC east if he had to play two games in the east I'm I'm confident with him leading the team. I don't -- confident for a medal and I would. -- I think the I just Brady is his Raiders is they'll somewhat I think people think he can pluck someone in -- I think he's responsible more than any any other person. For a lot of their --"

[23:39]" I know leader writes that has given the performance democrats' backup QB the past two games they feel they really have to address Milledge relation. I've looked at the free agents out there and I noted that Daunte Culpepper is available. He has to be a franchise quarterback in he had a monster he's in -- 4 but has fallen back to earth. Still he'd be better then Cassell Gutierrez -- back would panic it was available you guys said he played with Boston College while Culpepper play -- Moss. With the Vikings in was likely reason for Culpepper is the -- there. I then wondered whether he sees itself as a starter or he's willing to be a backup. Until I saw that the dealers offered him a contract to be Roethlisberger is back. I heard that he can Saturday it until they gave the job to left which why won't the pats go after this guy or anyone else in the market. And how odd do you think that the new team best teams in the NFL the Patriots in the cold don't have. Decent back up for the top two QBs in the NFL."

[24:39]" I don't think -- that is where I don't know Alaska right by topic Culpepper mean for that -- with -- him based on what's happened Culpepper must laugh. -- and I think it was suggesting that Moss. Now. I just think he got -- Seattle -- I thought it was just -- Antonio at least moderately during war and I don't think he's done yet and I and I can't run an offense I'd like Culpepper a lot -- putt at Miami thing if -- when they did that I was you know kinda concerned about that will be used when Miami made that move. Not realizing just how bad shape he was in. I I made -- dumbest function in Miami actually look into. Appointed me to deal and obvious from that's what the double -- they've been. Fiasco. Culpepper hasn't done I think two years to -- isn't anything since he hasn't played with -- registered to. Also helps him why anybody that. Boss. Has anything to do with a quarter and a but I think I think. Culpepper success and it was entirely related so that at that point that the element it is not a bad one. You know yeah it right the only -- That I -- that -- I thought he was saying net that Moss help help that blood relative. He knew that again -- he was ain't no way that they they were saying how Pennington played with. That helped him like at this point both play on. Maybe and thought he was given Culpepper Culpepper can't play. If if he needed at least a matter of losses running forty that are ultimately not a better option right now that match. That it -- option. Open ever fumbles all the time can't run an offense at least that well. And hold on the ball on one. He's them if you Cabrera managers -- quarterback now closer to the manager than optical barber is one. Okay. Swing is about the the latest movies strippers. When -- of course I watch wingers. Ten times in one week it hit the ground running with the girl I. The what does that teach you how to pick up girls that with the movie that's the basic. Plot of the movie -- one character and you've seen it. You all leave before the end of the are pretty I really that is outlets in. Not about picking up -- what is it getting over there was one guy getting over girl replica party. That's -- good -- not intransigent and pick up the new one afterwards. Was events one's -- will be something like that. Is currently are recognized and that is one of his first and watch it watch him he was and Rudy. Johnson route that it's always in -- know he was quality players really. It was a good that I very close up. The other guys Johnson Pedro was on whose glove man now yet at -- and and keep off."

[27:45]" All right well yeah pitchers dot com deep bow we got a lot of emails in some news -- James that PFW private dot com so while we get back we'll talk about."