PFW in Progress - 8/26/2008

Tue, 26 Aug 2008

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as we discuss which players may be released in the first round of cuts set for 4pm today, as well as the final cutdown this Saturday. We'll preview this Thursday's preseason game against the New York Giants and discuss which players we expect to play.

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Play from 5:17[5:17]" I but I don't think rate it will -- one LaMont -- the guy who's -- I think you think so yes I think so I think he -- don't think -- any guarantee we're in constant in the locker -- yet he seems to think -- get some playing time he understands the situation -- knows he's a little -- behind some other guys because he was out for -- and obviously it's frustrating when you -- And again this last game and he's not by any means the starter anyway even if -- team as a change of pace back. -- was downing Morrison and others so I just 'cause I played Chad Jackson New Orleans talk politics attitude he's going to play he's fighting for a as far as I know why he's in danger of being cut so he -- to play let's take it from the top that bill Belichick's press conference and anything revealed. And the thing of note."

Play from 5:58[5:58]" Talk about. -- is doing all right who he's going -- in Arizona a couple of just ridiculous questions. -- somebody at them and obviously out of town guys. Sports -- over the team programs and -- the help of Wes Welker. Now I know that we think those particular. I think beneath the gas and I ridiculous and certainly not going to get it but they need to be -- every idea I think -- right so they're not ridiculous on another team but on this team and they are but they still need to be I think. That went in via the walk through the locker -- yesterday so as an observer of the team you saw him you know it's not as severe injury. You really think bill's -- like. While -- about six days from like. I don't think it was happening and that that shouldn't preclude you but I think you want you -- at all they're going to yet he was around the locker -- that as an eternity basket. But beyond that what -- what you want. I could -- a -- like we hadn't had in that light. At all like until you mean like three weeks right by adding that it was odd image and I find and I think it's mind ask them out like that day no and after Wes Welker is around. You know he's so this he's stated day I'm going to. I think that you know I know it's you know sort of really frowned upon in this team that talk about injuries but I think as a reporter. Part of what you're readers want to note is the condition of the players who want to play and they might retired. In whether or not you're gonna get the answer I think it needs to be. People want to go to -- words that he says he's dated people to want that and this is just doing your job and doing your job is as an observer knowing. That when a guy's not going to play for a while he disappears and I saw Wes Welker go from a walker to the weight room with his work out here he's working out right that tells -- that based on my knowledge of the team right that. It'll -- add that in that I -- but what happens and -- While walk through. What happens if your talking to La. Complete opposite and it'll locker room -- on the corner a little bit muted. Like you're doing your job well but -- him -- Portland it was reports you can still use an as the report net. Yeah and -- yesterday you don't know going to be report. Everybody reported yesterday. You're in the locker yesterday you -- that maybe if you -- the you know -- don't quite get it up and I don't -- you would pound I think pretty much anything that -- mountain it was revolving around an injury is used as president -- he's told -- I think he -- out this information immediately why he's that you know we're not really sure yet on that in the next -- the guys under the knife on a table somewhere. I had to -- to mine he's being -- aren't Bullard and the question I -- Interest in with some them reporter we don't know which -- Basically came out and at the bill. We know we are not going to keep five running backs him icebergs in the times that okay. And bill didn't really take umbrage with that normally you would say well we'll do what's best for the team here as -- and he'd. Not any degree it was a guy Clippers and then here we keep it would EI. Look at the way I missed it when guys started. No it's unlikely you'll have five running back he said but that he said. In the regular season area of -- that to me. Sort of led you to believe or you could take -- Active yeah on your active roster and I think that somewhat accurate and it's unlikely the page book by Albert is never asked the question that can't be pinned down to exact words right. You know he doesn't want to. -- QB. Baker at love I think he loves NASCAR and answering questions that can be made because they like -- that guy that I guess it that's what he's exactly. -- that we can -- a question he -- I interpreted the question generally we ask you if you ask me yes or no he goes I don't know. I was just surprised it and shoot down on the fact that well its not a question that we could carry five. Right and didn't shoot it and shut down -- may be right he may not be looking at the question that you act immediately."

Play from 10:20[10:20]" Since the roster and that's where he gets into the whole thing that those running backs and generally in competition with each other. -- competition with other positions -- and special teams abilities as Fred I don't know if you know you have to step your board both horizontally and vertically. -- obviously cut and read stories always do it cuts were big part of that press conference built talked about in -- In what part time -- at a news Philly and Baltimore. Non. You know indeed try to get him to kind of explain the whole process here and how they do it. And sitting down today have meetings the entire coaching staff. Candidate didn't really play along and thank. You talked about evaluating constantly throughout training camp watching the practice film with the entire coaching staff and then. Ian Scott and it down and work on the list and the procedures that. You have to do it I was looking for some anecdotal kind of stuff with the -- receivers coach lobbying for you know I don't."

Play from 11:24[11:24]" I a couple times like position coaches lobbying they're -- In Italy. Topic at the way it's done I think a villain and he also know size and number of times not done. In structured manner. As it's this is the meeting where we discuss the roster and who's going to make -- it's done it's throughout the course of Stillman practice review right over than thirty days of -- I think -- the other day has. Belichick mentioned. You know. Players play."

Play from 11:54[11:54]" And let the coaches decide. How how much they're going to play in you know that's a coach isn't IV a player has in their in their control how hard they work you get the attention to coach at the end of the day. The coaches will make a decision and how much they play. But do you think QB ever scenario where veteran let's say it's so LaMont Jordan or Sammy Morris who hasn't had a lot of reps yet. In pre season would go to coaches they had no you probably weren't planning to play me in game four but could idea. Some extra -- you think that whatever he listened to -- Belichick sure."

Play from 12:29[12:29]" I -- the -- importantly -- it's definitely a guy -- that -- Tom -- You don't think if Brady that they could I get a for a series he would play -- not operating -- this particular case and and back the plate and he's yeah. Maybe he might take Tom you know -- him he looks like he. Asked via the time. Not some of the rust off -- would but. I'm saying Brady played in the pre season it bill. You know what -- I want -- particularly -- appreciate and respect the -- player coming to -- understanding his situation as an opportunity to impress the -- one more time. I think that we take the credit bureau have that it plans. The veteran players who would -- immigrants were WL and a lame. I'm like an option that I'm on the roster Serena and I were I've already and -- Number two I'm not I brought in but I'm not talking about a response talk about like it Adalius Thomas I play -- Jordan in my mind Portland fringe exactly they'll -- already addressed. Like it in right right note to what I've talked about it -- Lately anyway out if I think they do that as much as we think either. -- believe that the fact that they'll tell them all the mayor elected in a play and then die at some point they realize though and it. I'm not play but I don't think. It all just coach speak or player like I think he's a very -- and it -- maybe it was not property rights but guys like. They know anymore Kevin -- I'm sure I don't know aren't like they could go four quarters because at any point bill could figure out there but you look at guys like Vrabel and Thomas in small little boy all they know -- anyone -- the pregame Wal-Mart. In the first team out there on out there and no I'm not in the third team that you know they know what they're not going to get it Iraq right optically it -- one more question before we get -- Mike and Sharon who's on the phone. I'm on the I was looking at rating mark last last year pre season rating -- had answering. Didn't play at all we know the year he played a lot for a veteran is that. At the number of reps that Randy martz got the pre season game -- Little played basically the first half of the Tampa game and into the third quarter though you played very little in the first. And a normal -- and -- prize valued at all on different you know different in the first Baltimore game thanks -- whip out a only played like three carries in Tampa which in time for. The earmarks and on the field the other option and fairly deeply into the third yeah oh. Why would -- with Brady United in this like well it Brady's not in there all the more reason you want to I don't want to back up that play was losing and what of their in the game expecting the worst player -- going to jump in take cheap shots at hand but the worst acting at all pre season. Andrew Walter. At any moment but it totally disinterested in you and Brett remember that -- crossing pattern Cassell stepped up he got a little off balance dry. And the ball was low and away from -- and Moss didn't even think about he just -- pulled up and it was pumping his arms jogging and -- at DePaul. That was the Randy -- in Oakland playing with with Andrew Walter if if we -- for an extended period time. I think some of the war that have been animosity -- which -- through when balls like that are coming consistently it was via. A tolerance for media well I agree -- back -- the -- as a wide receiver off the bench next week at this time great QB throw that ball in the right equipment. On the outfield and look at home run. It's."

Play from 16:34[16:34]" I still as I promise Mike from -- on the phone Mike how you -- Well here's what happened Mike I. At halftime and after the first half I wasn't feeling too. After watching that Spurs now. After all. You into. A -- for the opener. And it sure. So right there. That well okay well I'll make notable too that spread given now the reason. Now for the kids who became a plea is going to be all all of -- you get to go to those games might you go to a regular season. It was deal. I want to reiterate my I don't think we treat you with quite enough laps and in fact is we really. Line -- open up with Mike in January and that want to buy an attitude -- and who's my dad -- by the NFL you. I."

Play from 17:51[17:51]" So -- subscribe better they don't do people read this drink company of not lawyer curt. People. Individual people that. You won another -- oh probably not anyway. Ribbon Trout. I keep Palmeiro to but I can't that they broke but it's interesting what both -- that -- Yesterday's. Yeah maybe aren't you know he would not meeting with twelve I -- if you know I sort of figured yeah -- on special teams. But -- be meeting just on the up and died but -- racing with game keep those guys to what do you think about it."

Play from 19:15[19:15]" That depth or lack thereof at a few different spot. To me it's what bill said today he's competing with Kelley Washington and Sam Aiken and these guys who are really receivers -- special team or Antoine bond. Who in the in the secondary and I just think you have too many of those guys. Who are more suited to -- Kelley Washington could be your number four receiver if you need him to."

Play from 19:37[19:37]" And Mike and I think that -- that would happen welfare. For all the that good things that and try and I've been very impressed and thrown the -- he's I think he's done everything you could possibly for the but I Jabar Gaffney would probably -- moved into the line. In a more regular role role and -- probably have to roll the dice with Chad Jackson on the outside and he did you know he he could handle that. On as an extra guy I also think it and -- name. -- parker got in these guys to the on the legal little bit I am mobility I don't know maybe. It was on injury -- and -- response from the he would he'd be too young to be getting passed away in his own -- Oh is a guy -- around the league a little bit me I guess is they work him and you know the almost always pick up the receiver. On Labor Day weekend you know and Duncan Smith yet Giants miss the Doug -- those kind of guys handled it pretty dire straits should stop and what I'm saying about it doesn't really matter for -- and sound hopeful that guy -- you know it doesn't matter how good the guys -- they pick out somebody. Does -- got to make room."

Play from 20:45[20:45]" What does that might put it the perfect way you want to put on your roster. But you can't find while the later -- category but that's another guy that is a nice guy I let him -- and -- me. He could be a legitimate kick returner. I don't think -- thrown does anyone job at -- quote on quote and I don't want to be good -- I was there that level where he gets started well they tell you only do one thing you'd better be like you know you better do it amazingly you know right and and he doesn't have that one thing and all the other things he does at a decent level that he could help out. I just think he reeks of a guy who's going to get cut and join the team in October -- when -- making gets hurt again Kelly watching it hurt again. He joins the team -- because my guess is also a lot more here than anyone else even while I don't I don't."

Play from 21:34[21:34]" I mean I think he can get rid of it I think you can really on Saturday and if you need him -- week five you can him call yeah going to be. But -- it was. You know a pretty impressive. Tribute to that he'll gave him -- talking about you up the ball washing you know talking about him being a tough kid runs -- up and -- gaming to produce no matter where we've put him when he talked about the that might at about. Being in the deep and meetings and -- they talked about the last year when he was in practice squad. He was almost always serving as a receiver on the practice squad innate it looked at and in their post season evaluations that it. This guy does a nice job doing things and that's when they first hatched the idea to try to make them."

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Play from 23:10[23:10]" We talk about football is such a business in cut throat all that but. Did you ever seen a guy like -- chicken head coach and yet got a guy like Ravens -- who you know. He you'd love to have him on the team that -- that everything he -- could do but it just doesn't have a spot and he talked about. Oh police what do you say talk about in hopes maybe he'll catch on with another team -- I think that part of that."

Play from 23:36[23:36]" He can't repay him necessarily right now the roster spot but I but he can repay him as Bill Belichick giving him. Nice nice recommendation. And this is what I haven't like crazy in the media I can pop you up are you a job if not. They'll -- to praising you in the media right giving you that recommendation right he's one of those guys. With the going back and it yet but the case but the Jets saying yeah oh yeah they like him that much we are -- in camp we no worries like. In my to bring him back for the that aspect despite I think he please -- this year some real as the injuries -- you know as -- always says the cut at 53 you know really against the all 6065. Of those guys on the team at some point I think. -- intro and he has no practice squad eligibility. He either on our -- to -- out already and he -- Jones. Has there hasn't he's had a team that yet. Wells was north of the guys box -- no practice everybody PFW wanted to -- on the practice squad is not -- any part -- it was talking about. For years and eighty never you know full time place to start a team -- one season. You know 3041. And 24 catch -- you know he's had some production. You know. He's a Patriot to -- 511185. And 111185. Vitamin. He's a guy that you know he's been in the league a little bit has -- oh it's not like the new unproven rookies who haven't what you're. He's in it the -- and evidently didn't he must with the region. You know started 31 out of forty games in Kansas City in four years he went to the Broncos this year and they they -- yesterday. Maybe it's one of those. Those veterans and then make the team and -- Give him a chance to -- where. I -- up hundred we can't -- number eighty number eighty and make number one numbers. -- well who yeah well here. But a 103 catches 1500 yards. Seven touchdowns in four years and didn't do anything is the last three years I'm just comparing him to like ego. You know I mean he's Mormon and -- CG Jones or -- and -- Matthew -- while -- we were wrong -- its -- kick returns he never brought the ball past the fifty. It was reported -- thirty you guys that was like and we want you guys -- that I think that in week one yet. It was getting closer he would like 5 or 6 morning when -- got -- start like the seventeen and well liked -- I -- what are we what are we say that I that in the game. A lot of things that game and they had a they would it was perhaps it was okay and -- don't know why it's hard to. I think what I guarantee that touchdown this year this year this year but I guarantee he'll bring it past the fifty this game I -- coming up the Giants if he meets regularly for the Patriot -- when he. Beat him for such. Back in fearless at Atlantic roots he and I'm very close. He's the real deal that you must like the area in the -- the Broncos you know I think these kick return guys or diamond. -- OI don't think I think we have -- the real deal he has to do it over like five years and it has averaged two touchdowns a year. I think every year this guy coming out of college pleasantly speed and his fearless and we'll run that week in and mil that the players. I actually think that that. Model rated -- think if you look at the way they'll construct the roster. He use the roster by long snapper. That's all they do. In national team you know right Jerry type Ali he never really had just. That might vehicle went out and be more than I don't think leaders should be anywhere on the practice this year he does one thing. If it -- somebody else or does it. And changing game well what when the undoing in the pre season isn't changing and yet here's that they just like when it's on line as a great practice player -- put on -- and I think he doesn't think yeah I think he was close until well I don't -- everywhere as vocal I don't think and I think -- I I think 38. And I think when you started drive from the 35 -- that's a big advantage that's enough to take a roster -- and somebody who threw everything I I agree with -- an honor I am I anybody. In camp on on the practice field I'd definitely. I -- game and it made any difference. With the public is a lock to make the Roswell is always -- but I also think right I also got you covered is can this is the first guy down there. You know the -- that may. Be gone. But Jackson's good receivers and and what is apparently -- out -- not. It's rare though -- you have a Gunner who can return kicks almost as well as he can gone. I mean. That's that I can say it that way but you can bet that you usually have a -- know or you have the returner I think it was a Josh Jasper it is one of the road and do that through but there aren't that many. That's why I think -- more than one thing and I think he probably will make the roster and LOI. Would -- totally with Mike. But the the options mean. For kick returner. Well that got copies. -- and I week as -- hazard and had it. We have that a hundred an opportunity -- surprise that on. Maybe there's those guys are excellent. I don't want to help the odds are now that's -- in and -- the secondary can really affected by losing one of those guys. You know and I just by. He's been good in the reps this pre season I was surprised that I think he's had to be with you I think he's an excellent. I'll pick it don't want. To think that the the -- always upon. Until I don't think that. Guys would've -- and the infield position but I think you can probably get. Around the thirty to 33. Tha