PFW in Progress - 5/9/2007

Wed, 9 May 2007

The PFW staff preview the upcoming rookie mini camp and take a look at which undrafted free agents have been signed in this edition of PFW in Progress. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, and Tom as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Remember to join them Wednesday at noon (ET) to listen live and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 8:37[8:37] ..." here was able to do it from that for media magnate bill Corey Mays. Started the practice squad and made his way out -- I think it's probably more likely amazed situation and would."...

Play from 15:06[15:06] ..." Stallworth Washington -- Troy brown could all be gone it could be Wes Welker and Chad Jackson you're only hold over receivers coming back I mean there's. Going to be a lot of turnover in the"...

Play from 16:18[16:18] ..." they're not going to -- Because -- Garros and worse than having Wes Welker on the books for three million dollar Roy plays for use at a Wes -- on the books for more money than"...

Play from 17:38[17:38] ..." bank and we've talked about the last week. Why would you cover Wes Welker -- you have got -- our don't want and rainy -- the other. I'll I'll take my -- and going darts at"...

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Play from 1:14:41[1:14:41] ..." morning quarterback. The we have Jonathan from average happy all well -- Wes Welker so he's actually fighting with Jonathan and no last name right and find out reactors -- never boy and he's an old"...

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Play from 1:17[1:17]" All right yeah W O'Brien says congress our Paul alone in our early today Fred -- may be joining later use nodded right now who cares. He just slows us down. So we're here ready to talk patriots. Randy moss rookie mini camp this week everyone's pumped meriwether commented on Friday officially be given New Jersey that they give the number of their Paul. I would guess that he's got the best color red in the business for opera and it. -- with the number one the number one there kind of slow time grabbed his overweight as well as mini camp -- the rookies you know league it is the whole lot dale -- passing drills and things like that it -- totally unaddressed in this program as he's played -- mobile blue background and that he that was that was going"

Play from 2:17[2:17]" well Paul guy like like logo yet how many times it off the -- that -- It was a magazine tackled couples. You know mentally to need for yeah I am a loser and I'm not look at topic this show is going anywhere. Productive at all -- When there's a shouted -- opener now I'm not a static you might suspect me of a left alone Murray it's more a lack of maturity three I'll altered about but what modestly that mobile -- wait for the debut exploded at a monitor. Forget madly deeply troubled Jerry oh what's new is -- below yesterday's quiet time yet as orderly quiet as -- quiet time is an unprecedented move. -- hop that it was the yard par while talk of the media itself. Of that. Anything big come out of that the the most interesting part was that he and his friends -- game off when nate played in the in the streets played street ball and you were covering somebody yeah jumped at the ball away and that -- second surgery that would be against news right after this season. Two again on the risk as it hasn't really limited him in workouts but. I don't couldn't when he had black thing on his arm yesterday. Tom can't tell me he's in the or doing whatever -- chamber Chester shoulders workout that everybody else is doing when he clearly is somewhat limited but. He's a corner -- care about if you -- working on its coverage skills. Yet you know -- second -- right on the -- an injury and he. Readmitted that he -- back you couldn't wait to get it -- and I'm more worried that he isn't able to duels upper body work out an off. Long -- in turn and run with guys I'll be happy right you're the only thing in terms -- actual on field playing in the not talking about off he worked out stuff. And looking back on -- obviously. But an active cornerback -- not been it would again that -- battle is all -- mean satellite had the surgery might want to make it. Misleading that is effective -- for an easy as lining affected my girl audited yes no question."

Play from 4:30[4:30]" Okay calm and other news is that it's undrafted free agent. Biggest name probably Matt Gutierrez played Michigan transfered Idaho State was a top recruit when he went to Michigan. Was injured and open the door for -- and Neeon. In -- Now Austin high school though like there's a lot of these guys lately that I keep Renault lost a nice little thing with the health plan that -- LTD -- great but the thing with -- all right Mina clearances. The arms straight reportedly has now overcome that the world was when he was coming out of high school is why he still wasn't good -- I."

Play from 5:06[5:06]" picked up Tom Reich is their -- if this guy had and he was one of the biggest the truth in the country it when he went to Michigan here one the job. You know as as a very young guy one the job at Michigan and anxiety injured in people looked at it and be that guy that was that true in the country. And won the job at Michigan I'm very competitive situation. But he probably isn't that play it anymore based on the that the one labor and pretty pedestrian he's -- I don't date right via he's been touchdowns 16 interceptions saw it. I I'm not and it's impossible that he -- come back and have the -- that he once did but my guess is that he."

Play from 5:50[5:50]" Yeah when you hear this top recruit thing people after a number Lavar Arrington was at copper crew once with David givens for a and there's a lot of proper -- or Dayton, Ohio attitude of robbery here anymore because although players Ahmed -- good sometimes they get beat now. Duel and he says just Easter that didn't when they do they have competition they wrought. Then transferred to another chance to play at a lower -- you -- no I'm not beating up on him why I asked -- W -- bill had the audacity to say he was intriguing but unlikely to make a -- and I took a project -- right Gutierrez the only one -- in any -- interest -- group -- you learn more once we this weekend once -- we -- it yet there is Warren from Texas was -- drafting that was. A possible patriot we put down -- in our draft they see he's got the guys. That means leave that we do we was going to either be a seventh rounder undrafted free agent with the with they might fly rod for a lot of questions about speed could be another Freddie -- type where people like it goes -- global does. They wrote guys who is still waiting to start the play with the lottery. It's funny because your different takes like people relief -- but he wrote we were watching they -- Would do would be to anticipate the play is going on three -- to move ready now well that's the that you hear you here -- college that the guy well for a month the olden. And that he would rule -- In covered all the patriots have had some success with Randall gay and right in the -- McGrath creative so. Maybe they -- they've had with three straight years at least one undrafted free agent make the roster in but now reviewed and some -- they'll draft that right now according to our valuation will be unlikely that and -- undrafted free agent makes it because. Were questioning whether. Anyone other anchoring brown they who is going to make of the part of that -- that I think"

Play from 7:58[7:58]" logically you'll make it a little bit more difficult for those guys to make it this -- around the immense amount of -- acquisitions it made it free agency agreement they acquired I think that they've already. Veteran free agent acquisitions going to be -- Oprah magazine yet so I think you can I. If someone comes out of that group could make the team. They're going to have to have really incredible training camp and more than likely even and probably start. You know -- square one -- which as you know practice squad are being stashed on what was somewhere. And you know America you know I -- would slash here was able to do it from that for media magnate bill Corey Mays. Started the practice squad and made his way out -- I think it's probably more likely amazed situation and would."

Play from 8:48[8:48]" able you know things start up this weekend will get an idea how these guys look. Again it's you know I don't know over last year the kinds of people thought Bramlet the SE a top radio as the ex patriots quarterback. But you can tell better training camp when they get the pads on indeed it would take us about an hour and realize that a little quarter veteran played last year just because it wasn't. Forget Tom Brady -- Metcalf up on the field there was a huge huge gap between -- and the other two quarterbacks. So you can get a good idea training -- than. That's who were working towards. Israel undermined -- my mind is the fact that I'm not eating food does north and his food this week Alou who's the who's the culprit that are. Well we don't want a colony but there are caught anybody out. I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth. Well almost screwed up that --"

Play from 9:41[9:41]" We're under the impression of who -- my belly was definitely in the impression. You think I'll still time however a -- time so -- would like to step up to the plate and -- yourself recognition as the E mailer of the week send us food. Email -- Gary give you all the requisite information needed to get a puppet you know order here before. What -- and these two hours and go hungry and put up the terrible show cause when we're hungry we're not good. And you can only imagine how bad bad yet this -- but I don't -- good anyway okay though. Patriots odds on favorite no question -- question is is stuff there up to two to. 11 and one of political fibers are the ones at the close I think was. And it's basically -- you know if she felt some of the point where it's like Tiger Woods where you take Tiger Woods where the field a little to the patriots or the feel a great appeal cult according R and R and I think Chicago knowing -- Denver. I don't know who else but they're all enact group to win it five at like eight to one point."

Play from 10:54[10:54]" But the great thing about football -- you mentioned Tiger Woods you know that's an individual border with football football team at the plate to gain anything can happen. And -- media pundits are circling clearly if you read a lot of things that are out there they're circling to either blow up and it really turned to a Redskins -- the patriots brought an all this talent. But -- lesser team because of it right I'll tell you right now patriot fans hate the media now if they don't with the approval this year the Pavel who -- the major right there. -- them up to fail -- that they do little it will look they -- away from the awful lot right it brought in Randy -- that it didn't it work for."

Play from 11:28[11:28]" It is funny -- how all of the the national guys are steadfast. You know -- in the patriots as the the number one team muted. And the the favorite to win the Super Bowl. But as time wore gold by now you'll see some people and we saw Michael over what illustrated the -- takes -- shots last week and you'll see that from time to time. People want to be a little bit different because everybody's written page it and it certainly conventional wisdom would say. You know the -- it was so close and added so much and lost nothing as polls tomorrow the other teams that lost more than they -- You know how can not be in my for the Super Bowl but -- he and people want to -- outside the box and exceptionally. Election -- That's you know they'd laugh if people are talking about the thing is I don't think that I don't think that story in particular got -- Thank -- much in the Michael over article in the guesses you guys you get along with a who. On -- players they all my first battleground and -- reading the story the unnamed quotes come first and I at -- Willie McGinest and then two paragraphs later that he citing willing -- though. That makes it a little more questionable but I -- was McGinest. Mean I think every court that sort of Willie McGee I don't I think for two reasons why I don't think that could be number one idol I think the writer. Would really mean not put out any right a lot of crazy things but the right it would really really be compromised himself to do that in number two. You're telling me -- again -- What I'm -- on the okay it is not enough to record a great guy magically op it was just that some -- right what -- an autumn they were completely opposite quell its that was. While my initial thought was lawyer -- that arrogance and my second thought is a little bit outside the -- talked about this with a gentleman that you guys -- with a lot Felder match -- I spent a lot of years into an a lot of the winning and finally left ago. Pause while others at one -- committee guys via a revote is he's you know he's he's a little controversial very conservative in -- politics would make no. No bones about sharing that with you pretty cerebral guy not hot Wednesday now on bit of a -- a little bit. Well that was it for like you there was another story today the what does your -- he that he another guy -- saying basically. Why did you get Matsushita -- back way back -- and that it doesn't look good to the young players and all the different I disagree with that because I think they try to title that they hate it -- that it didn't say consciously went without every month and and the other issue is it was it was Deion Branch -- years all the things they've done your one year deals except for the Thomas and wants criticizing the -- it -- I'll grant it wasn't branch Oman. It was okay we don't have branched out when we go a year later all my available what if we can happen out and Mikey is the biggest thing 11 year one like and asked if that you guys yesterday that would all these moves what does the future hole for Chad Jackson could he be cut could be this could be that. As well first of all. There's still a chance that next spring you have a ton of opening wide receiver and they may think Jack Jack and by then is going to be ready to all one of those open you know jobs down maybe he's not maybe you'll never developed but. Now at this time next year Stallworth Washington -- Troy brown could all be gone it could be Wes Welker and Chad Jackson you're only hold over receivers coming back I mean there's. Going to be a lot of turnover in the in all likelihood again next year because there's virtually no chance well those guys are -- is the only. Wide receiver on the roster in my opinion. -- out law. Not only this year but in 2000 the president is guaranteed money. Every other guy is either in one you'd like he's the only true or a total one year. He's he's the only he's a law he's not a there's no opinion is no anything -- a lot he's not going anywhere I've been asked all of -- out yet but that's different I eat -- Not a lot if they're going to -- that you and I agreed at a -- here. That's not. Are unaffordable -- that that -- but all -- plausible -- again next spring but all were -- right and that's -- that's -- is the only -- 2004 -- and -- can't -- this year -- I don't think he's going to -- attack. If he got that it is okay they're not going to -- Because -- Garros and worse than having Wes Welker on the books for three million dollar Roy plays for use at a Wes -- on the books for more money than that when he's no longer play dead body right I mean I mean guys get -- he. She's the power taken over from me by the way I think well that would spread out now these new additions the well usually they blow until I think he's going to have a fine career here I think they'll put to good use and you'll be productive but he'll always have been overvalued in trade an overvalued in constant -- he makes predictions only the only long -- that was predicted that he do. -- they were going to draft the deep as the -- he brought that -- spread never has any opinion that's why whenever he is definitive about something I go with it because -- know something. I will say that the jets will be lucky if you don't seven I don't think you can tell what he's doing some dumb like cat or Dexter Reid took 24 Ty -- coming back or when he goes. And wouldn't close the door on because when he says that any there's a certain way go I agree he's been talking to Jonathan and I was something there are definitely different ways that he throws those things out there by. You know that the line that we're not going to tell us -- in the first round it's -- the -- in the fourth round that was the next -- after a -- a round later -- not the main thing. But welcome right bank and we've talked about the last week. Why would you cover Wes Welker -- you have got -- our don't want and rainy -- the other. I'll I'll take my -- and going darts at a time hopefully. -- right knock a ball out dumping and somehow I can stop them you know one out of ten. As I don't you know 80 yards away well here is a veteran Anthony Gonzales he could have productive seasons. And it doesn't mean there as good as their production might -- I think he's going to catch a top here but I don't think that one option for 500 yards that guy's guy ever -- have a hundred receptions and and guys that are going to be have more important players going to be all worth the --"

Play from 18:18[18:18]" Let me ask you we just spent the first 20 minutes it how great the patriots are actually if I think that devil's advocate for a second -- hundred emails are being too negative one of the knocks them Brady is rated the uses he doesn't throw the ball down field. As well as he does the underneath so do you think at all at that could be a problem accuracy now I know we have an emailers of the draft to email that it. And if you think about it as sort of true not that he isn't good quarterback. He doesn't told great deep ball like your Aikman's -- the -- in Belgrade the he had Mike urban villa."

Play from 18:53[18:53]" I love how everything that you reference is starts with a cowboy help but that was it a critical knowing help but -- his war his first that the her in his brain thinks it is -- has the cowboys -- yeah but I know Aikman could dole good people -- analyzed the cowboys every move I actually think that Tom is a very excited to be -- that I do think that that Tom. If there isn't a little bit of a chink in his armor I think -- the -- ball is not necessarily as Zach I don't think -- of the five. But I -- I will -- a caveat. Albert you have to be all that accurate with any -- I mean we've seen him go up in in you know way and earlier this. You know and -- people you know you'd have to be wide open it doesn't have to be the best -- make the catch. He won't he plays like. The only -- action against Chicago last words you know one all won the balls up for grabs in and the other guys -- over Chad Jackson -- Hamas is going to win. Mister negativity on an even take Natalie for you mr. negative. I wouldn't put that I mean if if we want to really look at where everybody ain't two to one odds in his -- and his other areas you can question sonics and that blow. And if it -- Tucker who's playing corner a couple of who's in the second a couple of things at linebacker. Via the linebackers if they support it happened you know Bruschi and -- able. Rule or Tom. You know I'm not all of them -- want one of them Rosie. Theater I don't care and I -- You know I I think the team drastically different with with with an untested that no one -- at the other day they could win nine games with -- 992 to one went from -- now that schedule I'd be very impressed that Matt -- Atlanta because what I that I I think. Daunte Culpepper at successor slot in the ball tomorrow with the defense if they can play anywhere near that it last year. You might only be a couple touchdowns to win some games and -- then the next. They called out of the vehicle that no question better player I think he could exceed by handoff handoff Brody and up and -- because it but I just. I agree would I think it probably -- but I haven't -- I never really felt that way in the past that they could. Win games without Brady -- thought when I kind of think this year they could get -- it might not make the playoffs might be a struggle but I thought in previous years it would just it would blow up you'd automatically go to bed -- I I disagree a little I thought when when you -- here. I thought he was gathered at -- experience I think -- little bit last year when he. When he did step in when games are going to be drop off rubbery if you can't help but I thought that he would be good enough kinda hold the fort and be good enough to get you to the playoffs maybe on the peripheral of playoff contention anyway I didn't think that about I don't think about now I think it Brady would go down early in the -- I think you have a lot. And I don't knock on -- basically it it I just don't think you can command. With no experience and in -- way I think that would -- Tom Brady or amazingly great 'cause that's what he did. And I think if people overlook that while Brady today someone else can do to wife and that's -- rate is one of the best ever."

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Play from 22:39[22:39]" Sting case that if -- obviously none of what happened -- if bomb hit it on the order order. You know happen to Brady in September that he was out for the year. Now you you know you know your team as -- ask you know like it was with Brady could you know what was coming back a couple of months. It was Brady -- par in 2001. So it would be interesting to see how that would on hold if they were able to do what Tom you know you played it IT IB changes Diallo a little bit. I think they could do eight or nine games. Dogfight for the division 88 or nine games. Maybe I just don't I don't think that they would be a lot for playoffs by audience at -- in the first round I thank you might be able to -- playoff contention by that. Eight games would be but I also legal for like three games after the injury your but he now mentally -- we -- before they -- rule in that -- the -- they were down and regroup did it took it a little bit too long -- ultimately cost them and by the way I -- go to -- right away if you don't look quite like -- into right. My gratitude and the secret brown mulling offer from the patriot via mail and -- called right in the beginning. Chris brown I I that's agree I think that's a very good I don't think that's agree that they Chris brown I'd give him -- matters that we it gives him because I think it at ten carries. He can be very good for you is if you ask him to start every week he that toll injuries that have the over injury and yet oh. But our eyes when he played for a capital -- was a terrific back he was never -- The NI TI now go past ten carries I say the gamer when I need to deal looking bright I need a running back to start. I don't need to restart her forever any somebody to that bridge the gap really good point yet and really good point because it's not necessarily about those feeling like I do think that he almost anybody to do he Edmonds I -- one more you know what that number 30. You want to gets ready and and if it for money for Maroney. You're lucky to have -- all whom are ones don't always sure how to count the -- raritan want to read what that one count here at 30. But you can't -- 21 prisoner in his -- and I think that and I eight point the united actually it's a bold the gumption to say he's going to start writing games and carried the ball when he time it would be like I like -- that's why -- good distinction because you're hungry you know -- if you -- to be like the you don't Corey -- was -- they had absolutely nobody is -- away with deadly game Denver -- at that. That's a perfect case you had you went into that game knowing we cannot possibly run the ball today but as we don't have anybody right. In -- was -- Patrick but without a terrorist act passed in -- Patrick Pass into the one carry to carry traffic first 42 as pulling anybody on I -- it was a place that. Yeah team now. He's free agent and evidently changed agents onto that Kristen collect the -- who dropped to. He dropped her. Ladies and in few other guys who. He built around laughter and a paper with a the equipment on. I mean she has different clients and their different areas a locker -- going to walk around each guy at some point --"

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