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[15:27] ..." he -- vote it up and we did the patriots signed safety Rashad baker off waivers from Minnesota they released -- span and then another one of the great draft -- Stevenson was released from the"...
[22:55] ..." two clean Rashad baker safety from the -- off waivers from Minnesota Vikings they released Carr's bomb. They've also released on Stephenson from the practice squad."...
[44:02] ..." I I don't know sometimes you gotta change with the times -- Bill Parcells he he'll he'll tell you the same thing I mean they -- paid players that an -- play anybody I didn't say"...
[58:17] ..." by that still try to figure out how Tony dungy out coach bill belichick. I don't know -- it was blinded by that read but he that he was panicked by the side of the --"...
[1:10:57] ..." problem right. Period end of story it was a big time problem Terrence Wilkins looked like. And it might helms agreed yeah and as we know that doctor one Horry started going across the field if"...
[1:48:37] ..." Number two. Josh materials in my opinion calls the plays with what bill belichick has in mind if they go in with a game plan that has formulated in my in my view by -- during"...
[1:51:29] ..." Well no players going to come here for Alaska's bill belichick is the coach if another team was offered him five million dollars more it's just not going to happen. Now a deal"...
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[1:36]" Sent to go to the bathroom welcome that would magically placed us all right welcome VFW progress. Boy we've got a lot -- talk about it stuck with Saddam and some of it's not good. I do you to a good you don't that's terrible I mean it's absolutely terrible. I've gotten over this loss I'm not dwelling on its -- the Internet so that it games ago but we've got a lot thought about doing a blunt -- and I'm kind of little surprised at how quickly. Fans -- gone from hey this is it would go to Miami to. It's the end of the world doesn't take long I'm not expect that usually me but I'm I'm not going to fall for that but will take all the emails we can web radio pictures dot com that's web radio pages dot com and we've got out of email."
[2:27]" Already there's there is something we need to be concerned well. In the last two seasons their foreign nine against teams with winning records that's -- problem you know I don't want to hear and do we trust. Before a nine against teams with winning records and has a problem you're supposed to be one of the best teams in the NFL I told you before the game but what I say I said they may be in trouble tonight because the vikings in the bagels -- We thought they were good when they played above the 500 football teams they played two teams this year that are going to."
[2:59]" A whole. And lost now its truly we have a lot to talk about here. You know you know me I've been saying since that game was in progress that what why aren't they using Moroni more -- I felt also won this match that they had and that field. And I don't care what the stats say 33 runs at 35 passes and in all that stuff they were never behind by that much where they had not yet about -- runs and I just think that Moroni was the guy that you just keep saying it."
[3:30]" Well -- the reason is because the bronco show that once you hit by the colts -- of fraud which is often by the way. That their secondary other than Bob Sanders in play in that game are very bad act like Mike bell was not a relief -- the guide to begin with was -- that -- that didn't yards after secondary players may contact with them. Now who's going to do that for the patriots Lawrence -- now Tony dungy says after the game Bob Sanders was so important that it three of his tackles for that admiralty from scoring. Now just think about that if he gave -- more -- may -- one or two of those times Bob Sanders is in there and Brody takes it to the house. So that I -- dungy is pretty much telling you all Bob Sanders was between him in the end zone and I just don't understand where he was in the second half -- beyond screenplay is that the passes out of the backfield runs I just don't get it."
[4:24]" You know I know one of Brady's his first obsession with Brady's fault. Couple others were hit by means you don't throw it out that my pool of workers bald vote on as well -- and the one Watson -- editors yeah too bad passes you know. Even though he shouldn't be thrown out that much when you have a guy like -- who's the mismatch. You know that sometimes they were running these fake reverse if you don't you. I hate to do I ever saw some emails came in France PFW I guess John Madden was say in the same thing on the air that you know you don't need to do all this against the colts you just. Gold right -- dad who you know down food you buy it by the fourth quarter these guys been so worn down if you had done that then it -- wrote because they couldn't cover -- ball. -- good point just before -- came down after the -- got interception they had the ball around midfield. That's like the Steelers last year they wanted to say you know -- We're going to put too tight ends and here it will -- to cram it down your freaking pro and take your manhood instead the patriots smoked in straight passes that's what I thought they it and Paul agreed he'd be pointed out. That they should -- opted out okay we got the ball bat we got momentum now stop us right now we're going to take it right that. Now I know you know you can make the argument that. Hey you know now's the time you go for the jugular you know you go for the quick strike -- there on their heels. You know and there's a case be made for that but not when you have such a mismatch in the running yet."
[5:57]" You know while. I can't do it anymore Fred I'm that it told the company line those receivers -- it may prove in big games at face up if you're gonna play the vikings in the bills that god pleasure. But you know -- where Chad Jackson. I know rookie receivers are blowing up all over the -- but to look at Demetrius Williams in Baltimore if you look at Jennings in Green Bay -- you calls didn't look he's kinda a weird exception but -- Antonio homes. They're on the field at least contributing. Ted Jackson's on the field like three plays -- game. So I mean we're -- we are easy called locate it open against good teams having this is the colts' secondary were talking about Gabriel was never open throughout the entire game I'm sorry I'm -- a toll on the line these receivers state it's it's it halfway through the season and I can tell yet -- when they play the better teams in the league. This don't have the same problems I know while some of the balls were blah blah -- those guys were open they were -- well I'm not going to go all the way there you can you can I think these guys are okay I think. The going to be okay but I just. Bottom line -- question on the questioning the play calling for receivers caught passes for the colts -- okay we will make a big deal all they had receivers caught passes. For political what was bad -- so that but it is okay let's go with this goes back to my point at the beginning of the year he got Tom Brady. -- in the prime of his career if you have room for older shake Caldwell inexcusable inexcusable. All right well."
[7:29]" said. You know. The penalties it was the bad showing for the patriots on Sunday night game. All around no excuses I mean a lot of people criticized in the wraps I think the -- make a difference I think the -- on the other side of the ball down the Troy brown called the worst whenever that is affecting it in anyway yet so that. That was a terrible call but it did affect what do you think the odds were in Vegas that you would get brownie and Harrison for taunting him right into. -- one was not as bad -- call as the brown but it was still a bad call might have been a -- call photos but that didn't have any effect the -- was equally the rest were equally bad on both sides of the ball but you know. Turning the ball over five times and I note to the passes were -- but just throw it up there that much -- that guy a guy like -- Moroni who was who was the mismatched. On either I knew -- edit and the word this as a result -- were -- Tuesday -- two weeks that is in the press -- during the -- we knew -- during -- day -- even when the game was still within reach and that one play where they look like a Chinese fired on them in the in the in the pages backfield. I turned you don't just give it all and let them run forget about all this stuff just give on the ball four carries the second half for -- World War here that's not that's not good enough it's not good I mean. I don't care about you saw how good they could tackle on the kick offs -- it was -- 40 -- every -- they can't -- if you -- early in the open field and he will make people -- over them you know so. I just. That that's my big you know that's but that's also why Tom I'm not down on this game I mean -- down on the game but I'm not -- in the season because doesn't matter what I saw was absolutely correct double its not."
[9:19]" But you know while -- rest of the season until they get to Jacksonville elicit that he was meaningful means nothing to me where they could do that in -- the alliance the -- the -- well that they need to beat the better teams I don't write it write -- you know from the start I told that there colonel challenger that their fraud well I I've been telling you that -- no NFC teams that are common here beat the patriots that I know. I'll wait -- Jacksonville now if that they gave me something I'll want to see him go beat Jacksonville that they -- the Jacksonville that's always three against the three best best teams that they played that doesn't bode well for the playoffs. It just doesn't know."
[9:54]" It it is something that going into the playoffs. Even if they beat Jackson will go in the playoffs because Jacksonville is not an end of season team. Jack we'll we'll be okay last year they came here in the playoffs the page but -- the Jacksonville is very good -- so they go in there and beat them that would be an impressive victory in my opinion okay but if they go when they're -- vendors say and they got dominated by the Broncos the -- Colts should've won that game -- because they had chances that mean they really shot themselves in the foot a budget times so they lost their home that's -- the most disappointing thing by the coaches thought play that well he's going to these losses are coming home this -- plates were times never."
[10:32]" And I you know I don't -- I now I now but again I I -- I think what we saw in the reasons why the patriots lost on Sunday there correct. Now correct -- right in the receivers are as good as a leverage get in Brady working with them is as good as it ever get maybe there are going to be problems maybe that actually go far this year but I just have to think that. -- you know. I know I don't know as much football as these guys the patriot coaches but I got to imagine that going to look at that moment in admit to themselves. We -- start -- Moroni the number one if you we've we've got to start getting him 30 carries the game right you know instead of what do -- 13 13 you know and that's just mean forget about the rookie wall he's had enough or policy -- by yes men carry in the low that's an idea of rest at this point. He's got to be the guy in Dillon will come in every once and a while Bree you know give yet -- to make the change it's going to happen next year anyway so just yet I think I think he's got to do that you know the other thing is. I think you've got to start work added Dave Thomas because of Gramm's going to continue to be hurt you can't just have Watson being the only item -- I knew every time they get the ball the they they go to watts Thomas -- way. It's like overthrow older not even close to a now maybe he's running the wrong route but the one ball that they would have went way out of balance of I think he got to start market Thomas into that it -- is great rookie class the leader Tom is that you accident mills -- but even up that he bombed a site in world. I don't -- you can't have Watson being the only tied an option I mean case -- point. You know you go into the game -- Dallas Clark all everyone knows Dallas Clark's name now I don't bet you detectives is. Technically not a tight end on the roster but he did yeah he's -- You know in. He came in and he caught a couple yeah -- that's -- from Dave Thomas bright he's got to be that other guy when everybody's focusing on that Watson in the receivers that springs open in Brady's got to look especially if Gramm's going to continue to be."
[12:44]" Hurt I'm just disappointed in the performance I really -- I mean does that bronco game you -- said well was during the Deion Branch thing. The passing game was generally clicking at that point but to come -- only another raid on national television at home -- really disappointed what would you feel better. For example if the patriots. Beat the colts and then laid an -- against the jets yeah audience and -- that gave up if you could say they were quite up right where I would feel better about yes I would you know. Now that is political outlook on the -- right and you get a fantasy to talk while it's great they are really though the patriots are better than -- right now the colts are better than the page rights and -- we put to bed bill ballot check finds a way to rattle patent because it more its wind in small let's be honest wind in small bed that's what reynolds' pay an inning because if you look throughout his career mostly games he's done well is he just has lost. And when I mean you know they they scored one touchdown in the second half the colts did. You know they were there were couple drives -- did not look good you know nobody know -- look at that picture it's no problem -- defense was stepping up they forced to -- you know enforcement area on the field what -- kind of the fences the defense was. Far below average let you missed the whole point the problem with the colts is that the reason maidens or more is because one of the colt's problem which could hurt them in the playoffs. They can't score in the red zone against good teams by running the football. And I'd like the patriots got inside depend against the colts they would score every time they wish him the ball off the colts got in and were forced a role in the and the patriots you know that they played well stop the run. That's right beat the colts can get into trouble is they can't stop the run and they can't run against good teams -- but I I don't really give I mean the patriots. I can't give their defense much credit I thought it was like garbage now I mean they did give up a lot of yards through the air but its patent handing it I'm not surprised that he's going to connect. With Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. I'm not surprised by five point it's that they had the edge they would've scored more touchdowns -- they just don't we have a running game but I think that hurts them to the FBI honestly about the colts I'd rather have the ball 20 in the six. Because you got a better chance -- that he was score from the 20s and you do with the aid of the 40 actually yes. You know OK so and I tell you right now Rodney Harrison result for an extended period of time. That's not good any word on that there was a report from one of the smaller people of the eagle Tribune is that a paper there's a report he tours rotator -- I don't have I did not. Don't know anything about that -- to say and we'll all read to me out of Boston herald that they use management report out of eagle Tribune that he -- vote it up and we did the patriots signed safety Rashad baker off waivers from Minnesota they released -- span and then another one of the great draft -- Stevenson was released from the practice."
[15:40]" So that's a sign there that they need a little help in the safety positions so that it's Harrison will probably be out world little bit -- time anyway rotator cuff I know it's really bad injury in baseball. I don't know what. What the implications of a rotator cuff injury -- football I think there's different kinds of players. Electors different parts of the rotator -- but it depends on where you to -- so that would probably be deciding I mean for god make it tackles obviously using shoulder a voucher if it's just the pain thing or. You know you you just can't play with something like that as you know throwing the ball and it was a quarterback of the whole different thing I just don't know I don't know why but -- the patriots 11 bed care I think -- probably done. So it's a bad it's a tough injury takes time to -- yeah okay well Woolsey I mean that was huge not haven't Harrison out there because of his physical presence have -- gotten movement safety -- and put money Harrison and I mean it was a trickle down effect no doubt about it of course Wilson -- to begin with. So there's two new frontline guys again now let's bring up some that in in let me tell you something this is immediate threat has been bringing -- up. What are the heck is Teddy Bruschi. -- it was their I think he was third entertainment I don't care I'm talking about the eyeball to spread all we the I'll be the first -- about it. That I was totally wrong on two under -- he's playing good football I keep seeing Jamaican plays seen him in the back field. -- Tedy Bruschi anywhere yeah I really don't I think he's jumping on piles policy up to this point in mechanic could be the competition I would -- in the same thing. I just have this feeling that -- not playing that well that I would second guess myself they but. You know the giving -- points every week so you can have your inside linebacker not playing well and then have that good production value total -- we must be doing something right but then again last week you know Sunday night -- a lot of you know intermediate passes were Bruschi was trailing the play coming in late on the play. They did well against the run Bruschi was third that the attack I understand but that the offensive line missile Rican dominant. That it's going to be hard but I got -- all is that his fault separate skis fault that no way to say it get him -- but I -- say it is is that. When he has chances to make plays in the middle the field he's not make him I know I know so I mean I'm the one who you brought it yes I did his eyeball test that's it doesn't seem like he's as active. As he has been the last three or four years right you can tell say now is as quick as -- used to be you can see it but he's -- he's -- agency's argument that he's anticipating played in the -- it even for cable rivals that some tackles -- but he's there he's there he's in the area couldn not so much although he's become a little late but in a front -- Ty Warren Wilfork Seymour you could see where they're contributing you can see Chad Scott's contradictions you know you can see Ellis hops good or bad but you know what he's doing. Bruschi seems like he's being lost in the play it's that left the place and where was Bruschi -- you know the the second -- You know that the second nature that he has in the field instincts that he shown in the past. Much arms and that's a big deal because -- the mix and Bruce he's not playing well those are guys to have those instincts that your talking about that make big plays in big games in it and don't have either one album like we saw last year. You have problems stopping teams so I just open that it is mighty not understanding what's going on there that's making me think that someone who knows the game film in the game plan in his role of responsibility. -- every labels that not you're way off he's doing what we need him to do what he's doing well I'm hoping that's the case but again like you said the eyeball test. I don't -- I don't know I'm just I just don't have the information it we're not all gloom and do was one game but here's the bottom line three best teams in the AFC. Indianapolis Denver San Diego the patriots are always six against them the last two years that's a problem that is that a problem we we -- we we've made no bones about the fact when they were winning championships about their record against. Good play off blaze and that was one of the reasons why they were so good. If they're not going to beat these guys in who are they you know about going to play the -- playoffs so so it is not to be concerned with we have to be honest"
[20:14]" we can't. We can't look at through completely rose colored glasses but I'm I'm over this game I'm I'm looking ahead to the jets I know we have a lot to talk about a fans want to talk about it so we will do that web radio ad pages that come with email address by the way 5437482 is the phone number today was to players' day off didn't anything that you want to talk about before we get -- emails anything like that we mentioned the pose."
[20:45]" I I I think you know. I would still much rather had Adam Vinatieri in the -- we have because he missed a few -- too but it would was an easy one. But sanitary flat out choked the flat out joke I had never seen him joke that bad I mean -- I mean there's this one okay but the the second one which was he well he doesn't miss that a millionaire that was one that puts the game -- way. He flat out shall I can't I don't know I don't want to get emails later he's still sorry that we -- Adam go yes but he's 15 for 17 in your guy is seven for 11 and he missed an -- missed another easy one year so -- You know. But it was pretty amazing it was always amazing -- what is that about like that's the patriots if everything went right over it anyway I just figured that was you know by. You know definitely -- Adam manager Terry choked on Sunday night there's -- get around -- other thing I want to bring up Kevin Faulk. I mean that's now a couple times this year where. He's kinda let the you know why I've been defended them but I gotta be honestly I don't see him make in the contributions this year than he has in the past I know we've been doing good in -- returns so arguable that. But as far as offensively do you see him make him like the big catches that usually makes like on third downs like he has in the past battles yet again. I want to give -- all the Moroni he's my playmaker bumps and I other people are now taken some of the things that used to do and even when -- and catch the ball it's not for that 32 yard gain that used to -- it's like a six yard gain -- he he's definitely not played well this year some pocketed defendant because you know he's simply not playing well."
[22:26]" All right with get to some emails. In that get its web radio pages dot com a lot of lot of emails and tolerant wife -- they started yesterday -- you know pre emails for a shelves though we're going to try to get to a mall. Just trying to think is anything else going on. Now and before we get to the mail with the patriots you mentioned that the transaction didn't what did you just say it again Freddie"
[22:55]" two clean Rashad baker safety from the -- off waivers from Minnesota Vikings they released Carr's bomb. They've also released on Stephenson from the practice squad. So now I believe that lead to open spots on the practice squad. Meanwhile Oliver holy discussion passes Dallas well yes I am I'd rather be a page is at right now in the -- a lot of hot down there I'm just say you know you boy -- at a fullback and linebacker he got a special teams guy I. Crazy week in the NFL by the way I mean the players losing like they did mean that Miami that I've been telling you that the you know we've both said Miami would keep -- I pick Miami and the cover. But I'm still a little bit surprised and I and I and I mentioned is viewed now is as one of those things were Miami's going to -- on another role wander out of -- at all out of the one of those teams that when the pressures comic yet when -- game when now when the -- all the sort of makes -- record victories they could they could at a -- to watch. -- and in a backup quarterbacks playing well. You know cynical Williams Wallace Wallace last -- listen -- that you played okay that you mentioned last night's game people always ask -- Wiley College football over pro football last night's game is Wiley College football better. That rate utility the raiders are professional football team and they can't even get a stamp off that's embarrassing that's what Peter I don't like that that that quarterback that the raiders have I punk now he saw that -- them an energetic body ability I think he's one of those guys that they keys ten times better than any room at Fred -- this they can't move the ball at all for like the third straight week. They could move the ball at all right they had no chance ever scored a point. Now I know that tuiasosopo was in the best quarterback in the world but he's plates of NFL football chipmaker quarterbacks which some point I don't know what I'd be like obviously this guy did in the other thing about tuiasosopo with -- mobility. So that rush common baby -- that this -- Art shell why does he have headphones on he never says that he just stands there I -- team is that -- get al Davis who is just like I don't know what he's doing he's like and I I'm ashamed of my two Rico those guys because they said -- mention al Davis about seeing progress in the communities that don't talked about progress partly about winning is all I care about is winning right now. -- say at all. Greek hit me right I mean you bastard virtually every eat all you lucky if you win four games this year you -- for the first pick in the draft. So then that's right their -- this denial al Davis is in right now he doesn't want to talk about his team getting better he already thinks their good. Now awful."
[25:41]" He's he's out of it the teams out of it in the they need new structure from the top down you know they really do so OK let's get to the emails the first one comes from Rodrigo he says -- of of the showed how you guys try to see the both sides of every story I've been a patent is for ten years on 18 and I grew up in Springfield mass I don't remember having felt such heartache. Over any type of sporting event like it did on Sunday I felt disappointed before of course but never has my heart hurt so bad that it did -- drop that -- having said that I don't think that -- will drop not one catch a ball ball for the rest of the season because if I were him I would practice till the wee hours of the night what stuff walk. So we were just talking about Kevin -- you know when he dropped that pass and get intercepted you know. -- patriots. And mindset is that okay well something's gonna happen it's gonna be flattening yield or you know something will overturn matter you know but for once -- that is have you had to admit this is it's over right that was it. There's no. Talk ruled as though think it's going to happen that's going to overturn this. You know for once the patriots did not take advantage of another team's --"
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