PFW in Progress - 11/29/2006

Wed, 29 Nov 2006

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress for a preview of the upcoming Patriots - Lions game at Gillette Stadium. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, and Tom as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Remember to join them Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) to listen live and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Play from 1:32:39[1:32:39] ..." you can be in in the box truth strong safety I think bill belichick and Ken -- and that's final point with guys like you like with Willie Williams my point is is that. I don't"...

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Play from 1:42[1:42]" its web radio at patriots that 5085437 or eight to you want to it was a call we just had built ballot a press conference open locker -- would say what's going on ball for a full evening and you know. Ethnic -- Tom. Down as I've heard. What's what is going on sought out someone else's of that commute earlier I didn't notice that -- what counts with that all that I -- a half weeks -- are active in the parents of club. That actually concerned -- down I don't know zones not my Normal bubbly -- so wanted LB that well. I don't know maybe it's that maybe others not that excited for the game. Possibly might feel a little let down from the yeah last you know big game Miami's common item on the island in the game category -- Serbia and yet it is always in Pristina go down there and watch you know watch them play so. Maybe you -- maybe this is this is a sandwich game for me -- times I would college you know the cliche rap game -- but I don't think that the lines could not that is the attracting. And I think that the patriots played bad would -- ten point it should be stuck in the trap the three and a half court yes they went right bye bye. You know create the NFL anything can happen if this you know easy at this point of the season when a plane into a 90 minute you know it's kinda like the saints last year even though the saints gave the patriots a run -- at the end. It is you don't ever feel like the patriots have little lose you know what I needed. For sports writers I think that takes a little bit of the excitement about it because like the coveted you know with -- not only did not knowing you don't want it the words you don't want to have your story done at the end of the first quarter. Which I imagine it will be at least to have what he can do it this game goes. The way we expected to book it's like instead of the NFL you'd never know. And in leftists who happened I mean that's to happen in and Detroit on talented football players and I think that the difference in talent to a talent top to bottom. From the first team title last minute I was probably not great not like college right there you know the first place teams in last place team in the conference. And you know nine -- jets not sound like Rutgers place there accuse rises you know you expect the 37 that directors gave them. But well you know -- be interesting Mike Martz you know that's the kinda interesting you know story line David Bell with -- couldn't imagine -- again obviously they did in the Super Bowl and militant came down on the on the winning end there -- he was talking today about -- offense all the different formations in everything he runs -- you know my eighth. I guess my question would be if if they're so complicated it is so hard to stoplight they scored him points -- is right in the ball not surprisingly that's. It is the NFL network now priest Holmes of the season they said it was that it tells of the pre season. While I suppose I guess an official official in the window expired ST UP I would guess by."

Play from 4:57[4:57]" That's the Mike -- situation and I think that. No not surprisingly that it was a majority at a press conference that belichick talked a lot about the multiple formations in the complicated nature as you just talked about top. But you're right I mean in my opinion when when martz had the personnel to run that offense he couldn't beat -- is what's going to happen now that he really has only Roy Williams and nothing else to run that offense what's going to happen."

Play from 5:27[5:27]" Right you know and I know they want on the ball while -- but without having Jones and there. He E at least gives you another plate maker if he's on the field -- like politics as he caught 50s caught 50 passes so far this year so even when he's not running well we can at least catch the football with he's not able ago. He down Arlen Harris an 80 -- cason. You know those are felt Albert indexes suits and -- they'll be lucky if 30 yards on the ground this week is the patriots that politician he's video conference coordinator for the raiders got fired today yeah did you see -- they replaced -- now. Sure let me tell you some them if anyone knows of bears -- mention the -- to a wouldn't run for your lives those someone who moves of their -- if you did mention the name shoe he takes out a baseball -- chase you with a it's like going from bad to worse in this -- the total opposite he told one yard pass as the -- Bears fans -- stand that was never the ball over three Yardley took they took the guy that god -- it did he succeed Gary Croat. -- who it was an -- it was at that way it was a it was one of the debate they definitely were 12 I can't remember who papers. But I mean I I just remember bears fans I've never seen coordinator take a beating like that maybe buddy Hackett their New York was the only element hectic but edit they go over a guy who wants of all the ball ADR Selma field -- one -- one yard so."

Play from 6:56[6:56]" That's eyes as they got there their way if they wanted to change about it they ought to change but you know the whole thing with this lines game and is basically. In 1980 brought this up on TV show last night it was an excellent point and I -- say that he's not here's if -- clinical result but. It's a perfect game for the patriots to kind of break in their new person on another got -- to -- on the fly into Chicago once -- now but this issue an opportunity to not only play with ray -- side next to Bruschi. And have -- called an outside but if things go well when you play well you might have a chance to get a guy like Peter Wallace some defensive snaps a guy like. Now -- Alexander's and deep that's snaps and find out exactly what you have in terms of depth here and get them a little bit of experience on -- you know regular season experience."

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Play from 8:54[8:54]" eighths. I wanted to. Bring something up Tommy get your opinion on this and I know they nearest sports -- I -- football should pay its book value like sports in general. I heard some talk on talk radio this morning -- armaments comin' back into San Diego and the whole debate that was was brought up -- why is it in baseball. When a guy is caught cheating. He's kind of banished Hillary's a prize mean Barry Bonds mark McGwire Sammy Sosa you name these guys are scoffed that ridiculed laughed. But -- merriment gets -- the steroids in the sports games they can't wait to get them back he's you know one of the bright young stars in the NFL probably one of the five best defensive players in the league -- used to hold it against well my."

Play from 9:45[9:45]" Theory would be either consciously or subconsciously I think people. Realize that everybody in the NFL's steroids and and I don't mean every person but there's a there's a good majority of people on steroids and I think for some reason they don't think it goes on another sport does march. And that would be my guess is that when you -- football. -- just assuming these 300 pound monsters might be on some them but then when a baseball player doesn't -- sit home runs people get stunned by it but I think it's in every sport. You know I I I knew that probably is the the predominant reason and because this is a game a strength and speed and -- say well you know as you gotta do what you gotta do what it baseball. It's eye contact you know there's different it's not always break the speed I think people think all of a bed now it's cheating because you're giving yourself an advantage here you really not because bidders to repeat everyone's doing it."

Play from 10:41[10:41]" At they've taken a step further I think the records that are broken in baseball. For whatever reason that he -- he secret numbers that are yet you know the 61 home runs and you know whatever 3000 hits and 500 home runs or whatever now obviously getting it to. To 714 home runs and and beyond 755. These numbers -- you know as a baseball -- corrupt and -- so much to you and it they don't know what football doesn't have those writers you know -- merit -- going to do it you know if he sets the sack record you know what that is."

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Play from 11:21[11:21]" I don't know equity -- 34 point 38 in my opinion there's one decent football record and it's the rushing record. It is because he gets broken one could be 20 it's not one of those records like the touchdown but it broke it is getting broken every year now you know you have. I forgot it was I think it was the -- before Jim brown. Maybe in Buren I asked him I don't know what one would -- him the edge of brownie at Walter page in -- Adam Smith those are the best players that I've ever played the position. They like Iraq about the all time all time -- that's that's really the only football record of major importance I would say like where people qaeda and you know the number. Even I don't know argued yes it doll it's gonna -- well gonna say is even though that's probably the biggest still doesn't hold a candle to any of the records in baseball you know and those are like use that secret records and if -- people with -- break open a gate she did do it I think people. You know people about who's to say Emmett Smith was announced -- we don't know I mean your odds with view I really vast majority of professional athletes on. Well and -- Peter gammons I would view I would view on the McGuire thing I don't even a lightning being brought up. For the Hall of -- I think it's an embarrassing joked via this was the guy who are now -- talked about the past I mean you don't woo whose -- Dave -- we going to put him in the hall -- he has some home I don't get more than date kingdom but I am. To say -- but Peter gammons that he would vault for McGuire. In the reason they'll say -- are all -- to incur Bryan bill all right that respects but I was surprised by that the bush get his reasoning was. Say that he was on steroids like he probably was you know when he broke the record police at a 20 years -- there's no way of knowing you know. -- how many people around steroids he says you know I believe it's probably in the thousands. So now now we have to go through in and pass you know it's impossible -- he's he's voting with the things he belongs for his baseball when he got a baseball which site I disagree with. Because I think he would be borderline best probably in the he's got a low average he would -- asked the president struck out."

Play from 13:42[13:42]" A lot he didn't do anything at all -- level than in home runs and then to find out on top of that. Then perhaps yeah. That that ability was hated by illegal substances to -- a no -- that he now but I gotta I knew nothing about steroids in baseball right now he'd be borderline candidates for me. His parents out of borderline in the argument I guess you could bring up against that and I don't know his numbers would be I -- Reggie Jackson. It was a great outfielder it is today. Reggie Jackson's a lot of things -- left wives say and I I was qaeda really young when Reggie Jackson -- remember title Jackson was a very good all around player he kind of economic caricature and -- later in his career that's what I remember -- who swallowed hard as -- fellow over -- but he it'll 500 home runs and let's face it. Dated on the these days yet small as well and in the World Series. That's why act like I would I don't I don't ever think of mark McGuire is dominating time. I was a good feel -- an awful fielder bad fielder constantly injured every -- for a good average never drove in a lot of -- for a guy his home runs -- used accurate but anyway I just I was interest in the way we we treat the baseball -- as opposed -- right football team is thinking of the hit the nail right will it -- an immediate -- I want you know -- gold they were -- all well aware of another give their best player back in mid season act was a Catholic it is. Sold that would be my only guess I use. I think there's guys do what is basketball it's it's all over a summit and while I was going to say if you want a perfect example give -- walls is slipping regiment sometime and you tell me that that sounds like a Normal he would be. The -- week we leave this topic altogether I just you know Peter gammons thing about. There's so many guys and its audience and it did it in the thousands so basically you're saying we can't punish everyone -- no one. That's basically the argument that's that's but what if but he got they would -- I don't know. When when a few like law enforcement. Was like that well -- there's somebody murders being committed but we can't catch the walls -- about any you know we know that this guy it right economic and economic Stan. What message does that -- I don't I was surprised that all those all those guys would be the -- the the adoration from the -- and -- at the athletes to me is Paul it's today's drug use the word of Paul. Well obviously -- Goldman chimes in on the subject here. There got up let's talk about the patriots let me so much less just to let you know buster only said he would not -- for McGuire this year -- will wait and see in the future if you will vote for him d'alema wrote I thought I saw him yes he would give us something different. What I know -- I don't the other guy yes Paris and I respect him a lot I think he's great but I don't respect him on this on this issue you know it's the steroids had nothing to do anything probably plays and make room."

Play from 17:03[17:03]" Syllable oh speaking -- value we're here with a -- I'd like to like a list of personal you want to know how these votes were just so you don't have a Heisman trophy is voted out I want you to know this meeting in Bihar. Heard this conversation a reporter from Chicago was talking about Brady Quinn now listen I don't like Brady Quinn but if you don't have him -- top three for the Heisman they should take your -- ballot away. You know it is should be Smith McFadden I think in them and Brady Quinn the top three it might sound so this guy says you don't he says. While I don't know what would oval for first he says the the guys who were up for the fall off the map like McFadden and rice well first of all the bad -- a 108 yards rushing into the third ranked rushing defects eloped but after that -- So as a basically doesn't watch college football but he says prop man I -- college. At all. If that he says Bob I'll vote for -- Brady -- because I don't like. Well there you go there's all the Heisman trophy is is voted -- ladies and gentlemen I don't like Brady Quinn which you can't let Percival you know I don't like this guy. Peggy I thought Joseph -- I was gonna stink which you know why he's got -- old rookie of the year have been calls -- So that's that's life but that's that's how that's another vote on the highs -- like Brady -- marketable formats how much these things really need life. He should have is that he should actually complaining ships to us -- yet read in the press box that that's unbelievable. It is the and a the bed and fell off the bat right after an -- that the Indians -- boy 178 yard performance against they'll shoot it really made him look bad in the eyes behind plus innings their guy does more -- right. But you know what though he is the problem with the Heisman trophy voting it's too much based on one game this -- saw Brady Quinn play against USC now we think he sucks."

Play from 18:56[18:56]" Well that's nothing to -- you know I -- Desmond Howard talking about that before the USC game he said Brady went out because he had won game against Michigan he failed yet he's still went 45 touchdowns in order -- cents. And I and it and I'm I'm going to agree with time I don't think a whole lot of prix -- Yankees highly over -- however that doesn't mean he's not one of the best players -- college football right. I think you'd you'd judge you know one game one game went to vote for stuff like that oh did you you know -- I used to get stuff. At the herald -- by Japanese at the warden basketball yet as to vote oh did you. Yeah I just that you you're doing that if you take is somewhat -- I did you know I just sitting around -- like Brady ray and sandy hi ladies and gentleman. -- album won't even worse Tom nine I don't know grow within -- down today. Oh you looked enemy in the locker hours in my lap just in Arabic -- or watching you wait for -- ask how's he like a little boy waiting for a lost -- at their home -- kind of all of -- be in my opening in apologist waiting for them now"

Play from 20:14[20:14]" no threat. And apparently two have a report little little things back in the game you. Era that -- ethnic and sloppy track to run on this week in lines. The big tour of monkey box outside that it passes but that the zoological park I don't know and that's why bad -- that was. There's some sort of grounds keeper exposition and show here today and to which we -- ironic that they could grow grass here and there. Having a convention yeah grass growing. And they have the -- in response yet read -- excited a lot of like F 250s and you cannot pick him up journeys through -- in in lost after that he has no pants on that is why haven't like Marcia Aaron. She has that story. -- wanted new car but Nikki getting her second nuke art two years ago breaking get one. We drive of the gene but deleting it sounds like -- got its estimate -- China -- tough guy and a as he told her to find if you go to get a video you can get educated requisite numbers and he had to -- I guess that if you get the payments to be the same as -- are now -- and now say and I -- a 165000 will be turning into 200 album that he. I go I don't but as this is this in the midnight these things go forever he doesn't it tell a funny and flipping through the paper last night and there was like one of those handyman car guy questioned things. And I -- like Jeep engine known to laugh it's about -- talks like an old fashioned steel engine not this new aluminum echoes forever and I was like you didn't meet the ready to at least talk I I think it's not -- let me ask"

Play from 21:59[21:59]" all right waltz into the E -- mostly came down -- we got Cecilia from Boston -- did you see I'll pay me any reacted when he threw to harris' eagle BB took the ball on Harrison's hands. Did you see -- behavior to the fans. That just gives more proof that the -- they're very lucky to have radius of franchise quarterback. He's just cool -- off the field which makes him the best franchise quarterback today that -- character an off the field resemble any of the quarterbacks with the same caliber in the past. Now the pats have five running backs on the roster who you think will cut for next season thanks guys keep up the work."

Play from 22:37[22:37]" All of them operated on for a first down wary attitude right out of this clean them up and told about it two seconds -- and -- an important player in the game by check that out but consultants the losses. Even I don't know why we do it now. -- we are we doing. We everybody knowing when there's an -- why would look at individual play. Washington who was inherited smoking by the way to the whole story right now in -- Body language of -- as you know why apple left the field by the way before the first that was you know while -- you'll you've talked about Eric Moulds. I would go -- Harrison is the most fraudulent good guy in football this guy's complaint he doesn't I'll give him credit he doesn't would have the media. It he's not T all the as the -- of the media but he does salted times when he -- the football he's done it before and he's doing it now and you don't united one he should be open about anything you know. What was so if you mean money. He only lost by 40 points -- I'm -- this weekend that by 40 and killed -- and I did check it would animated difference if I'd known that Kevin Jones her and made them thanksgiving would have agreement close although by -- started green. In Chad Pennington instead of rivers and Jones. I would have been in the ballpark."

Play from 24:07[24:07]" socket -- I mean. Worried Tony -- enough I've hair on the topic I don't look like cancer patient hero you had your chance throughout the playoffs. All right Michael -- give me that look like mission managers said that is an appropriate. Yes sorry to anyone admit that is may be Michelle. Gary what does this Michael Michael Paulson OK Michael. Look funny. Hey guys it's been awhile anyways it was my imagination -- the allowed its non playoff hole gave it to a stadium ever my view I was watching on TV but I live. Never heard it that constantly to out of the razor throughout the whole game bar in the playoffs of course. Good for you fans keep an -- I hope. This is a sign of things to come did you guys notice this as well yes I totally -- love him middle of the first quarter while. Answer to this one was his. I was so quiet generally it is exceptionally impressed by the Teddy Bruce the chain that started when he stayed down for a moment I mean it couldn't have been 15 seconds later that they were training -- and for them to get something like that going back quickly I was pretty impressed you know they gave say -- you know the sort of New England. Appropriate hand as he walked off knowing that maybe he's done yeah the only game I thought that the opener was very wild that that Pittsburgh. You know the auditors game but between then and now I think this was the best game."

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Play from 25:55[25:55]" To rule on the host I've not read and long emails -- read a little bit of so they'll senate along emails today to say like screw you consult leaders like that. I can't speak for every pats fan but I can say -- left me unimpressed about the pats game against the bears. They not only -- turnovers but turnovers in the same fashion that they've made in other games the only difference was that unlike in games the patsy gets. The only difference was like -- games the -- to -- AFC contenders they were playing with the lead against the team -- a very young and inconsistent quarterback. Every time the pats play good team we ought we say well imagine how the scale would have gone the -- over five times however the -- always turn over five times as playoff -- defenses. Well."

Play from 26:43[26:43]" That's it meant you if you look at the last several games that -- lost door. You know involved in very tight games and that's common -- in and most of them as they turned the ball over multiple times you're not going to be able to do that in the playoffs get away with it very often properly a little fortunate to have gotten away -- one on -- and I think that's why bill it would -- yeah after the game proceed he knew that they got away with one they're not going to be able to do that the playoffs. He also thing because he focused so much clearly going in of protecting brawl and when they don't do it it's sort of a slap in the -- that we spent the whole week doing it. What's going -- Arm -- also says I buy it -- they sound they may not be worth 50 million signing bonus but. No but would you think that consistent starting quarter what would you think -- starting quarter would be -- keep in mind this would be an inflated happier with as the nation's hovering around -- 110 million with the extra space. Allow for a bonus that large with proper salary structure. It'll -- taken physically do it if they choose to -- their philosophy that would restrain they haven't really done it and I am not sure he's worth doing it for that's the point. You're absolutely right -- do. You do without question -- they can afford it you know they could've afforded an event that thwarted David him and so Deion Branch but it kind of goes counter to their principles and it's hard to argued that the wrong until they bottom because it and when when you continue to be a contender I think we can all agree that the contender very please don't you even even Tom -- right now college is blue phase -- it was then what's beyond the -- the -- period that Banco. Picasso -- I only -- like -- fuel on -- that's -- got to -- college football world group for college football season these -- NFL's into the curriculum in the moral issues as a sophomore -- called -- that could be on the way down yesterday at the rookie -- yet -- been here two years -- I think you got a -- of the Rex -- because you got here a little -- into the -- and -- this -- Ted Williams -- volts -- you've never been through this before training -- last year -- been worn down by the great. On ticket through and that that dollar check he beat me down people he has that effect -- people speak old Adam Vinatieri -- a guy can hang your -- shows up with a lot in the locker room every day when you're trying to write a story about a kicker. Is that a heightened in the trading rules of Roscoe was in -- now. Amazingly -- What does the FAV should be adopted people always -- kicks blocked -- big kicks blocked he was villa with a sign right here I had come talk to him -- that nine out of his last and nobody can find them we got our applies -- PJ Dakar rally. What's up guys it would for the pats this weekend I am very happy about the win but I am a little concerned about occurred in the ball over big gains calls the barriers what is the story with Doug Gabriel I heard this. I heard the game on Sunday and his name was bent at a couple times -- he was on the field with the catch any passes will be be in the dog house for the rest of the year should EB."