PFW in Progress - 12/21/2006

Thu, 21 Dec 2006

The staff chime in with their NFL weeks picks in this edition of PFW in Progress. Take a break with Fred, Paul, Andy, and Tom as they give you the latest scoop from Gillette Stadium and answer your questions. Remember to join them Tuesday - Friday at noon (ET) to listen live and email your comments to webradio@patriots.com.

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Be an interesting game will be in stating your predictions and emails first hour 12 to one. In -- here joined by Tom to Sally will take your emails talk about the game about the punting situation a couple of open roster spot thought about the probe all thought about just about anything you want to talk about in the second hour. Batman join us -- Eric Gershon Paul Perot will be in studio we'll go around the NFL with -- our weekly -- segment. And I also that's out there I mean they're -- who well that's true and old. The fat old bald men will join us as will go around the NFL their picks and we've been promised. The -- in. Via email correct yes Thursday the second hour the post when we're supposed to have it so our usual listeners from years past -- that the and it's very creative. Dean and as a great memory and includes a lot of a specific events comments and things from. The past years shows in his little might portrait of that second or supposedly I don't see any involved and I and I have a huge -- this week so the second hour you don't want to it we got we got winners we. Holmes -- not at all everything. And we even got some hopefully rip jobs on people from Ireland if hat or -- the Irish guy China -- anything dumb as usual. Just getting daddy we love you too great time a year I'm in the holiday spirit so I'm not mad at anyone. Commissioner made me go to Jacksonville for -- C -- and that just sort of one of two teams that played played the last -- wrote that a lot thanks bill McVeigh taken all the geniuses and experts off the beliefs eliminating all the other what is. -- errors over. Is steady green pop off of them all that's right. Alec loud mouth and they don't like. Arrogance and -- whatever it is that bill does to them when calls an expert called experts so called experts -- all Estevez targets usually throws in the so called the so -- expert right. But not a lot of news coming out Gillette stadium today no update on the punter although it's starting to look like it'll be one of the two practice squad guys whether it's any blogger who's been here for. On all month or so now taking on the practice squad in practice. The guys on this -- he spoke with last week and basically yet and he said you know working to be ready when McCall basically in. -- Tom not Sam Malone not made -- from cheers but a punter. In my impression would be be blogger -- held -- college and he holds. Here too -- during practice -- that experience of that advise my guess would be. That blogger will get promoted and signed for the game and -- the punting and that -- nestled loophole because if -- stinks. You can have replaced the planner -- doughnuts or want to replace the holder again did keep castle in that role. So that was basically a one game trial right right that would be my guest and as I've said I'm very intrigued by gaining blogger 'cause he's a short honor and I don't believe I've ever seen a short honor I want to see how that would work out with him Ray -- and Mike recently outlawed group -- feel like -- the wizard -- it's it's tremendous 59 guy like me feels like a giant. -- somebody brought to my attention to any daughters was that by ten on the roster. I'm gone by 511 announcement. -- album ladies like. But other than that bill said -- he reached films through here right in the future bill said that the status is quo on the punting situation those are his exact words. But obviously they'll have to do something prior to the game in the you have the to open roster spots Soviets in the other pulled up. I would think it beat anybody you get a chance to quo the status is quo thinks the other bill other than that. Not a general talk Mike -- Banta-Cain. How they've sort of stepped up -- how their roles have changed in subsequently how that's led to some different roles on special teams for guys like. Year woods inquiry Mays who. Conveniently enough for the subject of this week's feature in patriots football weekly Paul -- working on a tremendous. Well award winning piece that should really really enthused our readers when negated the day after christmas it'll be like a late christmas present propaganda or small that's right other than that. You know Maurice Jones drew talks and Fred Taylor talk a lot of praise for everybody and anybody who -- the jaguars uniform you know winding down here. Two preparation for the jags. I'm not a lot of pro ball talked -- to think -- settled -- one -- move on you know the MO yesterday or the theme was you were pulling."

Play from 7:20[7:20]" The Super Bowl while the pro bowl -- added in comments that we were talking about upstairs that not only just. This team plays to win super -- police said yours you're judged on how many super bull if you win unless you don't -- immunity right and an admirable right. I just that's kind of a weird remark I think because. -- Chet told us last year the two best quarterback he's ever seen our Montana Marino palmary don't have rewards for all right I just think. That's go to garlic you said in Brady's mine Terry Bradshaw the greatest quarterback -- time right you know he's what on the negative side of interception yet touchdown I -- I -- out all the players Brady's the matters that he had gated. And its energy because actually. Richard Seymour -- talking said I thought it would at least be the usual two which means Brady anymore so but it is what it is I think there's an argument be made for some patriots but. I don't think it's an overwhelming argument I don't think anyone truly got screwed in the reason highlight. That Philip Rivers when it is because I I'd prefer that they they go to the side words not his name recognition that rightly put new guys that's why we're like Lucy hi ward and -- he's not a big name to everybody what he deserves to be in the global. So the patriots you know they didn't they'd get that benefit the Dow is but -- say the weak hesitant for a bright you know. That might be some truth IP Brady brought that up that you know other teams don't choose to vote for us whatever but. Well they're -- artwork but when you're on top. You disliked by most -- most other teams like if you play in Arizona in your good is people. People probably don't really care you know what I mean right. But there's probably dislike. For Tom Brady because basically just how good he has in -- they're sick and tired of -- of gold on the field against the -- You know Philip Rivers has done that much that's why Derek -- didn't win the MVP -- Justin Morneau ended the debate and I. Now teeters when morneau one -- right okay. -- and brain cramp there. Yeah I think there's some truth -- that but who knows bottom line is it really doesn't matter. The pro ball in Israel as irrelevant as any all start at the over it just -- back then I mean they shouldn't even have it. I think it yet it's -- you're right it almost irrelevant game was played at the end of the year half the people that were voted in the won't go anyway right I wore a price. By the time they get to the people that don't go to a little by -- Richard Seymour Philadelphia Ty Warren. I'm actually just a little tangent here organ emails. I have no interest in -- when they have those like skills competitions so I wouldn't be opposed to just giving me. The best players and then make them do other stuff that's sort of fun and entertain unilaterally the pro -- because -- borderline arena football -- it's -- speed on the fence and I all the they don't want to get her some is that there also are not their fault but I just think the game is useless and speak of arena football. Just point now Monday Night Football in August just point out something that. Fans might out of realize ESPN has bought the rights to a at a football they have they have so -- you know ocelot means -- duplicate on the promos for real football -- scorpions that shoved down your throat didn't make it. -- on sports that are now we'll have to see although highlights of arena football games so -- not only have they bought in there are part. All right just buy the rights -- A minority owner in the league sort of -- really have the incentive for it to do so the real but going to be stuff -- that on earth girls and they are good. Going to Monday Night Football Monday Night Football obviously going to be continuous thing. Almost year -- it's gonna go right from the NFL to work. I now lead as a nice thing to go to in the summer have some beers black flies game I'm -- as a sport where use -- didn't follow on TV it's never going to catch now. Because you won't have the passion of now I'm off. Whatever rough riders thing wranglers but I would. Be very interest if they brought a team to either Providence -- Boston I would definitely ago I used to go to Albany I would -- I had the fire -- the they had block parties -- go we have some -- but the older boy you know with the boring part was the game -- because that -- stop drinking for you to sit there you gotta go the bathroom every five minutes -- it's more of like all the circus is in -- will go lower."

Play from 11:45[11:45]" Just a thing you go to because it's they are rather than you follow it as past but. Two against the emails -- yelling any other new notes anecdotes from the locker room that Mike right -- have a great story in PFW one of the great guys to talk to. The players receive their NFL PA I guess christmas gifts or whatever today which was. Basically some sort of little bag that was half shaving kit half. First aid kit and another tool that lets face it TH ULE tool bag for who knows what. That regular truly needless to say Michael Wright was opening his when I was talking to me. Wasn't very impressed -- like digging deeper and deeper if you don't mind if there was actually being good in there. And now was not happy for the amount of money they base who lost which is. Five figures so in my opinion that stuff I think they'd rather just keep their five figures. I think especially guy like Mike Wright who I mean your -- making a lot of money but NFL -- in 26575 grant it whatever. Take ten grand -- that's good chunk of the summit taken what owes them a four the whole everything whatever the you know when. Just to have the NFL yea basically so when he gets find bird helmet to helmet and the appeal on his behalf then. Just to be a member of the -- some of that -- retirement like retired goal."

Play from 13:08[13:08]" Having retirement I mean you'd still have to contribute your own -- it's basically just around the whole thing any union to you know so it's their -- when there is -- strikes over their view when their. But you know it's it's hard to look at the big picture when you have a certain paycheck and they are taking a chunk of he that are open doesn't like suspended for a -- were like right on a right we'll start off with Sawyer from Waterloo, Iowa so insular so -- what do you think about Kirk currents. That's been in tripping on going discussion here yet W about. Where he is sort of on the college football landscape of coaches right in the I want to ask what questions fans something else too. There was a couple of things yesterday that press conferences that alarmed as I picked Jacksonville earlier in the week now. I wondered I've -- cover -- earlier in the week -- that in mind what he's going with -- of asking that they have for their opinion I heard the work cover two which I think is the worst defense -- pro football I heard that Mathis does not match up with receivers they keep on one side which is a waste of time. And I -- Tom Brady's say they don't split hardly at all. Those three things bring up a red -- I'll start to think this is the good match up for the Jacksonville an update -- the patriots might win this game now is that. Eight being a fraud like in the -- says or -- from being an intelligent objective journalist who gets of the new information. It is smart enough to change his mind -- information long ago and that's why would meet some of us -- always that the patriots are not me yet -- threat a -- who picked Denver Broncos last year car accident that was the first time he picked it is the only here that's not true so let's let the -- the side of -- of fraud -- by an intelligent human -- Making a decision based on the back we know you're not an intelligent human beings with the other point one exhibit you might want to give us seed of this gonna say yeah. -- that I think Gary made ago. Hey guys Ken Walter and I are there goes the season how do you expect to win without a phenomenal holder and the guys can -- nearly 30 yards. Pop art Brady from cutting up the sleeves to his red but he really how -- that race but he. If I was gonna by -- by -- but he this pro shop you cannot get it right not available great call the pro bowl selections from the patriots unite. Not there right now neither of the bodies. That point yet talked about bill leaving do you think he could find a place that will provide him the resources to run his system the way he does here could he possibly have a tenure like that a how poor."

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Play from 15:49[15:49]" Why why is lobbies with unique player and if that's the part I don't -- I just this talk about the spurs. Maybe not lead to didn't take five maybe just knowing -- better place. I don't know about the I why wouldn't do it because specially when he wants to run his -- to yes scheming -- are -- got all our players right there theories are -- let's just talk about the -- that it coffin will be fired I've reported out of though crucial few weeks sources boldly Tom Coughlin will be fired and end -- supports us there and I'll tell -- all go to this even further is in our -- section. But -- awful will be fired so. Saving giants really want belt which they come after him hard they elicit. You have total control we don't have most of the team -- paper -- to worry about. You don't have to do this year -- EU EU EU called the shots everything. In years 67 million dollars a year to do and there are going to give some melt up bright and he's on the contract yet. But I'm satan does he listen. Does does he think about it. I think now. He stays here yet as they get a better chance than in Scott the only. Charlie Weis taking over New York from -- or not. Died I and when entry Google -- might in court agreed to -- the organization. I just I think italics here. I think he's going to have annoyances everywhere because he let's a lot of little things -- oh there's no question about about to -- in. Sometimes guys look at change you know what I really feel like -- change yeah scenery change but I effort challenge other words I'm not sure. -- a lot of coaches I think fault that there ego says well I want to show I can do wherever it's me I'm not sure he falls into an amateur I mean it's an interesting. Bought and if it came up but it could get ugly if that's the enterprise here's the other thing well. Unless he goes -- results of wins. There's always going to be Cleveland. And then Tom Brady right. -- all I see and that's what that I don't know we'll do it now but I can guarantee at some point built boat temple coach of results because he's going to want to get -- is the news that a white coated chicken the egg theory he's wants to -- everybody gets him. It's not Brady. And might not be this year but I think at some point you'll see you take challenge some results could be we hear -- the commitment I make fun of his name's wade is what you one more negative. Realistic email. Buffalo by incredibly good with -- been proving that he can play effective quarterback with Evans being great receiver in the defense and McGahee are always great great. Miami can be the -- since they have the tapes and have a history of beating. Them once every season mean -- has all the knowledge in the play calls called by the paths inside his brains we have. We have terrible line worst receivers in the league Oakland Detroit and not. Are not last in this one. Inconsistent running game and many more problems -- think this year is the realistic chance to go to the playoffs one last time. Next year we have to play the AFC north and NFC east and so I think. We will most probably not go to the playoffs how much of that. You guys agree as part of the -- dynasties over. Will -- that we. We don't necessarily see your emails. Are are realistic it was just that one day we were in it like 30 negative emails in a row I think it years -- wilder a lot of negativity. It is I think in next year's along with joy yeah they have a lot of money to spend my money -- he's he makes one good point. They're not going to have any Kate walks next year this schedules going to be tough the NFC north NFC east is tough the AFC north going to be tough and the teams in this division are going to be even better I think we've seen buffalo -- and that's what I'm saying yeah so you're talking about. A murderer -- scheduled lecture for the patriots if they don't play better next year but they did this year he's right they won't go to write offs and that happens every year that this schedule versus how well you're playing and you say what that year's team wouldn't have done anything -- this year's schedule. -- so far away I mean yeah they could make I mean they could have Calvin Johnson and Steve Smith and Jesse Jackson could be playing like they think he owns or its Moroni might be a 1500 yards back. It could be a totally different team you might have some -- outside linebacker. Getting 12 sacks as a rookie off the -- in my signed a special Hebert alias thomason. You know you'd ever know it's going to happen you'll have to wait. But I will say if they have disable off season and have pretty much the same team next year. I would say nine wins would be would be good for them in and would be great season they'll make Cigna the upgrades that being said what is the chance for Brady to get out."

Play from 20:43[20:43]" To get out of this office dying team Brady has a realistic chance of getting more Super -- than any QB in every year he stays in of in paths."

Play from 20:54[20:54]" Stays with the path it's going to cost him eventually. Well I mean he's the patriots quarterback interest jump around in in. He's not Phil Jackson he can't look to see where the perfect place is were all they need is a quarterbacking builders so. And he's patriots quarterback for quite some time in the foreseeable -- tenured deal six may be. But I mean he's he's the patriots quarterback Nobel -- as everything is no quarterback I'd rather have and he's uncle it just doesn't work like in other sports where you can sort of go year by year and try to bounce around a win titles are so much involved with a winning in the NFL own. I mean it he can go to Super -- this year the patriot to mean as much as we think they're noticeable contender it's a possibility it's still out there. And if they get hot at the right time when he makes plays and bill you know. That happened so no I don't think it's really of the won the one thing they have a third bandage in every playoff game it's not -- They probably will allow coach everybody they go up against and -- have. The better big time big game quarterback it's everywhere they go against. So those two things while it may not be the most talented team -- that if they hot and other areas that could be enough. If you ask me the three DVD set released by the patriots is the reason why. On that caused all this it's like the mad -- So basically cut the esplanade but currently -- break her -- all the New England diners. I'm Gloria I agree with I think you and I are alive again no more battling between us threatens the problem here. But with three of the final one. There's one through sport said Fred got greedy after elementary stop it too. Who is making without an email the other day who is -- four games yet Lorrie Moore and everybody that the Harry in. Okay I'm -- in him barred him in -- Harry looked up. -- all -- question Mark -- question with all the -- NFC quarterback choices. Very pronounced -- deal -- make it I've seen him play twice this year both times he was great. When it's third and 15 and he runs for the first it is a heartbreaker proposing the -- is wide receivers have hands of stone in Jim mora junior is not a good coach. I just -- the playoffs soundbite. No we will now. Let's talk about playoffs course today you might give the 24 count -- well. The thing about the receivers -- in the stone. Is that we were their last year. When -- was quarterback that's funny how many balls until it. I don't think that they played great don't get me wrong book. You know -- I've been a Michael -- supporters it was a high school at first heard about it he with the Virginia Tech guide this guy's going to change the position I've been all all over might give them plenty of time shall be something in the NFL. And I just haven't seen enough I seen glimpses I've seen flashes here rather that well he's but he doesn't give me. It would -- the consistent basis and I don't think he's ever going to. -- follow the NFC he is a borderline probable there -- a lot of our rights and I was from because I mean. The injuries the changes that quarterback that's how Roma did it right if -- abated overall while I would be like open arms like you gotta be kidding me -- make it over Michael bit. But -- could make an argument for I mean as as we set of -- yesterday. Ramon made it after a short span of playing well. Well Rex Grossman had the same short span it was just early in the here and it sort of forgotten Grossman could have been in there he could win at any one of those guys that -- down culprits he -- Briscoe was right though the biggest Sean Taylor. He should be in their overly Williams not even not even a question about it. Okay you know I hate the Redskins so. Williams -- in -- Ali. Jamie Houston on the -- Jamie what's going on crates thanks I'll -- You Jamie what we're we're we're on the --"

Play from 25:17[25:17]" It's easier Jamie these James. Now prize mean -- only did. You screw it up phenomenally Jamie and I -- on the outs he -- like me anymore why I don't always make fun of me one day it would allow hearsay you know as well good. -- also pilot garbage it was that you might have been getting. But that's what we did or make fun of each other analysts though I make fun of paddy and -- his enemy JC in Anaheim I -- sneeze I apologize to our listeners to its -- comes under any point in this email. Morning guys who -- the franchise tag on a player and then trade him before the deadline. Yes that was done before it takes 13 million -- yes Tebucky Jones. Yet there's there are deadlines in there when you can do it when you keep it there are certain dates because if you do it after a certain date. You lose the race you lose the franchise tag -- like the length of the deal. I forget the exact way in unfold but there's definitely a window where you can franchise and and then trade. And it's Tebucky Jones was the perfect example recently. If it takes 13 million dollars to sign a sunny Samuel -- we give him the six million left over this year and then seven next year. If we trade some players in the off some -- in the money if they have left over from this year well yeah you could. You can give him a six million dollar signing bonus right now. And then a seven million dollar roster bonus god -- next spring if you wanted to let me explain what happened what's going on here. They called -- these scandals agent. He laughed he left and he said it will he had free agency because Asante Samuel is going to free agency. Palffy had one interception right now -- Yugoslavia brightly. You gave him the sees -- he's in heaven right now forget about it he's in the open market there's nothing anyone can do about it and it David -- has another bad week who knows the price Michael up again -- it's -- Jarvis of the most accurate and I go to jail and he could be and double digit next by the as the times as things all over if we trade some players in the offseason as the 2007 salary cap number go against our team with a new T. Would appreciate your answers keep good work well a salary cap number is composed of the salary and bonus money. So if you trade a guy you still are on the public that hook for the bonus money -- salary goes a ways over -- guy. Sick guys projected Havel a one million dollar cap number that's an 800000 dollar salary and 200000 dollars a year left over from signing bonus. You're still on the books for the 200 grand the 800 goes to the new team. So and it's accelerate if a guy has. Five million dollars in bonus money left over a five year deal. It would have been a million a year on your books for the next five years now it's bumped up all at once you have to you have to needed on that year's books so. That it depends on the player. Basically if it's a big name big time player who had a big bonus you're going to get an accelerated the bottom line is is the patriots if they want and you'll be in a bidding war with -- 567 other teams"

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Play from 29:19[29:19]" That I lot of -- feel like Ireland more than Alec Guinness. -- yeah me too I have no interest -- I might Elliot we hate the -- should know in Ireland on. This isn't good anywhere I'm with a -- I just don't like I don't like a year. Cream means I type -- life via. I drink water very light -- you deal that's one of those things were either auditor -- is a hot dog came out orange fire arm. -- I guess -- email question would be do you think that the patriots management has put Tom Brady. In a bad situation despite the fact that he's in the prime of his career so like that -- lines you know I don't know exactly the way to look at like the CM for AM and teams like the Dallas Miami Green Bay. With -- recorder that would their franchise Elway when all those guys -- their prime Jim Kelly. They surrounded -- offensive talent wreck that you see -- that man. The patriots are one of the few teams in NFL history that it had one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time -- chose to on the office go the opposite way. So that would be a good question asking do you think that the team's whoever makes the decisions around here has put Tom Brady the eight ball -- really you know loses this is his time. Not a -- question. An instant what the show is in Ireland about the NFL would be -- should see who's on it him or you could ask out of patriots football weekly is the best team newspaper in the NFL. Or you could ask -- had to get off the wagon. -- what -- very early in what he said you that you voted irishman -- a -- of -- authorities have asked for drink. It's interesting on that -- get so defensive about me calling them a drunk -- his name is patty in the paddy wagon and he's a drunk lots going on there -- very. Interest to you've written here today that -- synonymous like that he now. Anti persona non water around here let us thank god that paddies that African American or Hispanic or if he would be kind of job. Well I'm Irish -- okay right that those in the rules I've learned Michael Irvin thought that they too but it. Like that carries polish like -- out -- out and I call my cousin effective because of."

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