PFW in Progress - 8/1/2007

Wed, 1 Aug 2007

Listen to this edition of PFW in Progress as the staff break down the first five days of Training Camp. We also discuss this years NFL rule changes and points of enphasis.

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Play from 2:23[2:23] ..." they had double sessions yesterday and they'll have double that again tomorrow Bill Belichick to finish up his press conference double talk about that."...

Play from 14:56[14:56] ..." well then Maria and Italy and out there right now Kelley Washington play. I think he's the guy that he he flight the ball -- these other guys the gap called -- eat that"...

Play from 15:58[15:58] ..." what you know one thing but before trading can't start at that Kelley Washington will get -- with the price you -- we all had quickly we all didn't like art many can't -- got the"...

Play from 20:24[20:24] ..." time -- I did he point out every two when it's Randall gay is a work stretching update live being Buick open only a matter I only Morris."...

Play from 1:18:13[1:18:13] ..." every quit it was a hell what was -- his name Kendrell Bell Bobby Bobby bill he was wondering. In middle linebacker media here. Up with a guy he has that he was one of"...

Play from 1:42:31[1:42:31] ..." aren't have a quarterback. I don't know how many teams really need Kelley Washington. Jabar Gaffney they could have those guys when they are available in my will be able to get them and I think"...

Play from 0:04[0:04]" They -- PF WA in progress. Usually they're pretty -- tonight. If you look decent when you yeah -- and one. Yeah W in progress back -- The -- motion. We used to say you've got farther with a kind word haven't done I think that was just kinda working with -- bridge deterioration tonight. They come up from behind your -- percent of yourself. How would you gotta go like probably I don't know. -- the day who talk and we got her my son. -- the real old he's just like on the greens are not to have gotten tight. -- take classes and Andy and Andy it's fun you're. Have told anyone to even want to change. I saved your life memoir -- an old school rights and be hired what's he's thinking I wish. I like some guy -- I want you to get a good way to break I want to find Nancy Floyd -- of thing I want it -- today. I wonder how effective VFW in progress."

Play from 1:21[1:21]" I welcome. It's great that you -- private records in the middle of the he carried it mean to preserve the reputation. Are right well here we are threatened Gary the rest of the guys will be here momentarily I don't know why they couldn't be your time but it."

Play from 1:40[1:40]" Any campus that means -- for everybody -- as a positive rest of the way there's a people under us food right but you know god forbid that everybody get your time you know bring the plate with them -- whatever you know -- up -- lounging. But we're here web radio -- dot com email address web radio patriots dot com. Phone number 5 wait 543748258 by 43 and worry you. In the middle of training camp -- hot humid here it to a team in Foxborough mass I have one practice today which at 230 afternoon. Will be and a heat of the day they had double sessions yesterday and they'll have double that again tomorrow Bill Belichick to finish up his press conference double talk about that."

Play from 2:32[2:32]" Will now I heard there was a transaction -- somebody while the find out more and that. When the guys -- it -- we beat you know the guy that -- their lunch and are now confident accommodated. You know I really appreciate them being here you know. I I really over the listeners and I really do appreciate you know the effort that you guys made to apologize again for how long you run your players low blow like can be your time. We -- out at 12 it is -- according to. You know the atomic clock 1253 right now till late it is a late. -- to make it possible for it right right on our our rule what are you anymore information on transactions today. Mel Mitchell is coming off PP going to -- it -- time technical. That built up on the stupid after failure to do a goalie that Hollywood cut because of before. In a -- was cut -- would put an an -- I don't know like Jamaal Williams situation like that match they cut all the mine don't they just an out there on my art at one point -- While I know those guys were round but I don't remember them a release of the -- are guys that salary on I -- with our yet that. Although this one I'm not so sure. I don't know -- it's probably a money right. Bill didn't really know declined to explain -- program that would whatever reelect bill even."

Play from 4:37[4:37]" As saying that. And I don't know how much he was at opening of their time that on the on these -- case we actually -- to make shall -- doing it right. Did he put like it was ridiculous or procedural -- transactions that. I don't out of me you didn't even begin to point I can only imagine how complicated I -- even try to give an explanation certainly given them. Great round about -- and how things worked at -- and all right -- And other case in even try to do in the."

Play from 5:10[5:10]" what I'll go to guy no practice today but yes there is Greg I'm tired but that hasn't been one yet okay. Before able to my -- at all. But what you -- off you know because they always -- you know yesterday -- bad for autograph but I've read about -- on the Allen -- all -- equal -- you know -- all right well as you know somebody got -- you an idea actually -- who are you. Well yet got obviously -- vehicle we've -- and he went from dated today TV careers. It is now -- and -- game on order. And the offense clicking last night -- often looked and after getting we'll probably about that move I actually or even more -- Jabar Gaffney via the end of the morning session bill called the often together chat with them for awhile with -- is not -- could pat on the back or anything at the office. Really -- all all I I didn't expect them to I actually think I don't know questionable how good they -- last night. And how good defense behind them the entire time kind of literally. And now but they were. You know. Hardly any balls went in complete -- I can't think of one that was defended really in a team's segment or anything you know they were just completing -- is that willing to minute red zone. Deep down the field -- Caldwell made a big. Play we're Sanders who comment I've were going to yesterday. And it continued to be in the right spot and not make the plate to Manny on that that's that's an issue with him -- in the middle of field on the sideline. On look like that may be the one thing that keeps him from taking the true step forward that we've we've kind of been looking for Albert feel all right. A better player and the guy -- going to make comparisons of that I know what is -- guys that Tonya Leonard Myers that that."

Play from 7:13[7:13]" Very good to -- one goal all was always wish you could be but never seem to make the play. -- you know it happens to those guys they got an and that applicable -- a better player and you don't want to first of all those guys were a quarter yet can't cover yet done a quarter he can't covers the safety and you're totally out -- little -- absolutely -- a -- corners -- different but. Our team and what better credentials even and -- third round at that are not export outlook. -- what it little pathetic that Myers and that want to 3. I I don't I'm not stated that. That worried that he's going to cut is not going to happen to him on patriot he's probably going to play a prominent role in the patriot right now. But it did it kind of a warning sign that we all made. And kind of determination to be there all the time but the ball it completed it -- time. In general and it."

Play from 8:24[8:24]" The offense really good probably practice or won't be full pads and practiced yet. All of again even when they've been ample pads it has been a lot of hitting while wondering like could I know for that. When the -- that good -- together and let that happen. You think the have a chance to redeem them -- after or guys cover anybody. Now a dale I'm over I mean he's phenomenal covered and Watson did an even vote and -- that's a good for look at why that happened at -- Practice repeat that the players any talk yesterday relief there are a lot harder -- which -- cover ground were able. He -- games -- these -- and Alexander. They can't cover. Good now now I told me on the back then it's fair to make edit that -- five -- in the attic when guys are within 34 years old yeah I mean Alexander might be unfair but we've sort of in the writing on the wall are able Drew Ian. It is what it is. That's why this mandatory or 30 or Rey could repeat though that the patriot -- court that much better now any have come numbering at Nicole incorporate all teams that cup. Trouble covering them or their own deep trouble during training right they do it get ready for 5140 I didn't -- who might play in the -- is. Particularly over the results too early to tell the -- often gotten that much better nobody got that much -- too early to tell right the only state that is that public guys were older. Continue to get older that. Ought to keep up the field. Which you all last year from of these guys I think it's up work this year."

Play from 10:18[10:18]" Particularly Drew 11 -- I'm with you in particular but overall that would cover one I want you pick what that -- always want I sort of want to want to -- struggled to match. All it as a running back got. But that you really about it but as it up for defeat by real but -- but I don't downgrade any defender natural it and that's why I am I'm currently -- five days in. And I think it is a little early because I think on me at that point. When you don't even have Evans or regular team period it was actually worked and it can be -- yeah era update last night. When you can't hit. Right that is it -- the fans are more about the -- doing exactly what they normally would do and they don't want -- getting tackle or oh that's right -- doing what they're trying to do without the ability and it knocked them off they dried out. Really getting overly there -- no fear of the pack right right now though it makes a lot I think it -- more now that I mean. Okay if you know rippled through like he really trying to trying to write that that that that is not not anything it is but these -- what I ought to be concerned with -- I'm not gonna you know lose a lot of about it right now and oh yeah it's pretty easy games --"

Play from 11:49[11:49]" I think with the the team -- they've been in the lead Italy and the team. Put it out if you're looking for opening -- could the -- and I think possibly the age on the then if you are laden team but the -- the chargers can move the football and -- the -- if they're up there. Those teams of the patriot trouble in the playoffs it -- well. Outlets that they get that -- yes. That eliminate them from but I think you can't take a positive that the offense looked pretty well all the guys you know -- ran around WA is Gaffney and often going to be probably -- welcome would be great yup you right thank you for things that we all did I we well well that I'd write him a while but everybody else back I do think -- going to be great -- looking though. Earlier goodies yeah they are more red shirt off now the Dockett a quick like. Quit cutting I think -- looks bigger. But the body I thought it was either I just Ricky Moore put together they don't I don't down again it's great tribute it. Right exactly at that -- today when he had a little immediate he was ready. Yeah all I can take a hit they just don't want me to go got a lot of carries last night team park you have to look at relief. Relief little that are in -- Brady you know -- I I know. Ballot calling and gaff yeah. That's it could find it getting -- at a rate all intelligent doesn't throw around a compliment like that gap. Yeah you're right -- made the roster. Physical -- death. I'm in we were talking about more about him the but you're right I don't I I heard him call it yeah definitely yeah but if you connect up apartment problem and that -- I don't I. Little -- the -- little club a little bit more comfort level with the guys well if fans are looking for. Comparison between human and called -- well because that was a big debate with all the new guys coming in while going to be -- rather. One of the -- going to make the team a lot of people were thinking early on so far you have to give it looked -- lot better everybody agree that I would give the -- of those two -- in Washington yet I would agree I think Paul because I think called what you can't compare column -- and compare them if they're competing. But their skills are to -- light years different because. I don't I think -- these are quicker. I don't know as hands that are anywhere near as good -- think -- Caldwell is that this didn't. Nothing stands out yet not going to catch a break at like all -- he's not going to break a tackle but he's going to be the consistent run down the field seven -- turn around -- where I want you to be kept the ball that what do you and I actually think acting and happy that gap after that I think all you -- point work some people call -- it deep threat. -- not really not relieved deep threat that media -- well then Maria and Italy and out there right now Kelley Washington play. I think he's the guy that he he flight the ball -- these other guys the gap called -- eat that with this guy jumping in the year -- back flip it like Clyde Hart once compile you know and."

Play from 15:17[15:17]" I'd only -- Washington I think right now his best chance. Mother role in games something other waited to make all of able I think flat receiver. I think Caldwell and Gaffney the mental talked about that that -- Had you wake up on like Washington. Now my obvious that matter because -- so far and it L Welker has. In my opinion better deal than he can make up for the fact that he doesn't have them. I think Washington and because I think he'd like the ball out if right. Now knowing what you know one thing but before trading can't start at that Kelley Washington will get -- with the price you -- we all had quickly we all didn't like art many can't -- got the ball and it happens that better he has he's better any yet he was not an NFL football players Ricky -- I'm not -- really -- a negative way. -- camp I'm remembering June. On the double catchers and the restaurant --"

Play from 16:28[16:28]" After he doesn't a lot of doubt we cannot had a -- he doesn't he I'm your work -- poke ball Tommy and a good point you you like I'm a pass coming right -- And for a reason you need to calm as as -- answer yeah I don't -- who would jump. I'm glad there and like hurdle jump for every. Hurt again and -- and he misjudged the jump and get there before the ball and want --"

Play from 16:57[16:57]" Another guy you know. Ben watt of the year it'll Corey catches where he come down awkwardly -- that's because. -- but he's another -- alert that while on the run but keep going and he is not naturally that he has to work at a football some guys redeem on guys like that. They just naturally it just comes easy to them and his other guys have to work and work and never going to look natural on all your stuff here. One guy that we at all and you know who knows woman all work. Does that right you know we all kind of put him and pretty much walked out of -- they'll lock and what knew what what would have to happen for him. You know maybe maybe to open I don't know I -- I don't either get cut I don't I bought that get cut right thinking electric heat come back -- and and he came back he doesn't what's the deal now and -- year we don't know unknown he's overrated. -- it -- the front of him being an odd guy out at least initially I. On me me -- visually is like playing time he's -- continue yeah I think yeah if aren't the MVP. I think at some point and I have no idea but I at some point -- an incorrect as they go okay active PP but I still think he's apart you know the planned for the."

Play from 18:19[18:19]" How far behind is he going to be -- they -- you want about Caldwell or even Gaffney they've been in the system for a year. Either he Kevin according to bill good off season -- all comes -- two or three how far behind Izzy was going to do to run flight route because I don't know. I don't. So a -- on the field quickly because he -- developed chemistry with Brady as well."

Play from 18:43[18:43]" They get a guy PUP what do you think of Kareem Brown come out -- which -- had a little talk like. I and I wish I knew exactly what he did. But I I I thought that was you know rookie to look at that means I'll feel like. And obviously it left an impression that that more took -- we do things brilliantly we're in case now. Kareem Brown rookie draft pick was and -- quote from Friday to basically Monday. For violating a team rule and they admitted yesterday that Richard Seymour of sighed and gave -- talking. So that was. Pointed him in self Ramallah was it to point guy -- more action -- in Italy roster and -- But what the totally you know that the only you know either -- feel better now. The elder statesman of the group I don't remember and that'll wear my life that neither of -- but it was quickly and looked up and used it used it used it correctly okay who was the writer. I agree with -- yeah there was an echo. Very good well what other topic who want to cover not this. Anything -- that prepared a noting. Anybody tackle changing the holidays and whether or not is going to come back before that I I know they need to be edited it Tory James. It is from what I -- is it covered much. And Randall it was stretching his groin for a long time -- I did he point out every two when it's Randall gay is a work stretching update live being Buick open only a matter I only Morris."

Play from 20:33[20:33]" That's got injury our knowledge it may seem a little insignificant but I don't I don't it -- and I I think. You have all the veteran guy that you could rely on as death. And now wouldn't you might be taken to people out of that makes him -- one guy. I think definitely different at the drop. And I you rely on a guy who really had a tough time staying healthy and -- I think we all think that you can. He can contribute I don't think he's Champ Bailey or anything like that we starter and we thank you can contribute nickel -- dime guy -- play games hasn't done that. Ever even when his regret the play every game -- forget he he -- better. That he got hurt in oh I've got hurt and he was earning college he's never in his small -- I I I don't standing up and."

Play from 21:27[21:27]" What about Meriweather I'm going to they have what are my honor to -- in order to look at look at my right now is it to look like everybody out last night in the coverage it was it was hard to DVs getting torched their a lot of nice place by the -- just you know a step in front of the defensive back for the ten yard out -- just beating the 18 on the there was it will wasn't like guys are getting blown away and for what it's worth he's been Maryland and matched a -- in Welker. So I think that is a little of the company aren't so. Are they preparing -- more for the nickel corner or of the quarter both. He's played a lot on the outside so well I don't Korver with Meriweather if he -- quarter in the NFL why didn't Miami. A lot of great -- there again and a lot of athlete Miami their safeties -- they. The other state these are -- like quarters they grounded. -- they probably saw. He was that -- and he could do -- out there doesn't but they -- line about a quarter quite a bit okay -- has experience there I don't think he went out right now he didn't and I kind of -- with -- where I'm a little Douby is that a guy can just jump right in on both be as -- that it liberal team. And -- starting -- he's good -- I don't know -- not far from the -- towards -- want to -- the other -- especially -- is next in -- definitely up for -- I -- think -- with -- situation -- to -- Atlantic -- not -- midway -- it didn't -- today -- All right I mean I don't know. Now may edit an ordeal in a defense -- On that bomb that radio and Daphne on me for blanketed all the way. In any really -- on the -- mean because Tom mentioned with James -- ball he'll be the -- he does all here and he calls out quickly and -- but he's terrific over the -- he's a big -- long arms you can easily and -- a lot of -- them all these guys in the in the or -- let it -- it was -- bosnians don't want that he would try to -- it go with the camp competition before we get the male partner. -- get. Beaten out by either hitting it harder or Malone now I -- not."

Play from 24:14[24:14]" If it oh Eric while Malone has we've all agreed Malone struggled everything he had a couple of good but he's -- that -- really really consistent he's going to be -- for via. Don't want to hear a weeklong that I only being an etiquette blogger Barger has the arsenal I think blogger hasn't and you really compete with -- and and we've been in the job but again which -- really -- because they've they've only been doing -- two personal things those guys in you know Miller Miller it took the first day off of -- and and getting back and yes. And he struggled a little bit when it's in him but for the most part he looks like he's back and is ready to compete."

Play from 24:56[24:56]" that morning and and one of the papers. Kind of look at that -- team competition flat out it was asked if he could. -- pushing John -- what's that are very matter of fact as he -- and you know young I haven't I think you know look to congress the opportunity on him being very -- went to Europe the next -- you're going to be guy. Try to win the job right let Eric Wright because going to come we can talk about the practice we want but from what we were all kind of I'm -- How late in practice. It was what it was spotlight team on and spotlight for for -- happen and he's he's going to have to kick the ball away to Europe. You know only here in the first couple months we're here to have any at all I agree with comedy and I think and if at all. You know they'll laugh at the match I think it's into you know like you know we have heard things about -- you know one spotlight on how to react. I think both guys are little questionable I think Miller is totally I think as he has anyone because we love him much because really cute guy and on break to talk to. I think we -- overlook the fact. Ball -- as they all that. Is that the nature. -- kind of an expert on the subject but I'll actually I don't ask Gary because you're confident they -- even though you never -- but like never -- Walter. Never what it couldn't remember what his first thought was when he holding for adamant there is -- don't drop I don't want them to be the next bill Buckner. What the hell you thinking that Tony Romo adamant think. But I just is is is natural yet Venus or you know questioning yourself is that part of being one of those. Actually -- little -- yeah well up ahead are they a little weird the club what area I will later -- when when a player when a kicker get in a funk. It really does Gordon it quickly enough to get out of that I had to yell at -- at a gravel on the -- The puck comes on the practice field -- would -- at a -- we let the game -- pat -- South Carolina. Carolina an in junior high and I'm like one -- not to want. Oh my god it was almost like are actually there at all that he was tenure and that's. At a Medal -- Atlanta reading what -- wanted to pick I was gonna get let go when he was at -- it but you knew he was going to elect a help that it was any travel badly -- art 60000 people and that didn't front of his locker -- every question Aaron I. You know competition in camp this apartment he noted he replied that absolutely yeah he's been doing well I -- I'd -- He is it that brought in people. Every occasionally it writing but I think at a solid rookie of the reasons. Thank you need anybody we had finally it was only five days can't think at three days where the team you that you -- in practice I think three -- be good to -- for Gooden -- where he was like that nobody picked up front about it and by has been perfect that are open they've been really short it hasn't analyze that they've gone to 42 yards one I've done that I've watched it on thought. Nickel back and four left right left that an -- I'd I'd increment back I think they'd. Generally they've gone out about 40 yards and a long range now. And at one day -- in three and -- 42 yards a lot of why am I don't I don't worry about him."

Play from 28:55[28:55]" Is a couple of specialty and one guy's got a kick out to be a little bit depressed as Willie Andrews quite seem like he's become an N special teams a I'd like reserve defensive -- made a couple of plays on the ball last night definitely through the play here for him beat him regardless -- what did you write charity."

Play from 29:11[29:11]" He's going to have -- year 1012 year career in the league and he may never but never more because he can return yeah but he may never play a significant role on the point he might he might develop and -- like that but. He's going to -- like one Larry went on to rod cherry guys that gonna cover a nice career from -- just planning covers."

Play from 29:29[29:29]" Tight end how Brady look like it good in mini camp but we see now it. Reason why he probably if that's a lot of you all -- local guys out rate April they haven't developed a work for him coming out of his break. Off god almighty who -- him that one day coming out of his rate. Drill where those linebackers -- covered anybody would Brady comes out editor waited for the ball even -- yes it. He is definitely low coming out of his break three of privately. And Hillary and I -- only way he's going to catch ball -- when he's uncovered that are in the red zone where he. I mean because he's head of -- on the depth try to sort of vision and catch a couple of touchdowns and a little you know first goal I want on me on they. It is like every other team -- on first down at me -- touchdown pass by -- by -- they -- a real tackles -- would be tackle and get a chance -- couple -- you know three but he -- you often practice and that's really it has been out there and he had practiced really that while -- topic well you know."

Play from 30:36[30:36]" The reason why bring up. Brady is because you know we talk about oh great depth at tight end Alley -- gone. They've got Dave Thomas who can catch the ball the outrage over the watt in. Yeah Dave Miller on the hill comin' back on foot topic I haven't my appetite and -- you -- already have -- Gramm and on and while Brady yeah most people well I think now even if Graham not -- if lock in Brady and Thomas were all healthy I think when you that it really one guy who can do a lot of things we watch. Thomas we know we kept the ball but he has yet done it a lot McGrady who's really a blocker oh. It kind of a -- you guys don't agree emerald could do well actually a tackle or I go out."